14:29:41 #startmeeting 14:29:41 Meeting started Thu Nov 16 14:29:41 2017 UTC. The chair is medicalwei[m]. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:29:41 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 14:30:10 #topic 0 - Roll call 14:30:15 yo 14:30:15 hi 14:30:24 hi 14:30:41 Please say hello, and meanwhile please check the agenda @ http://deb.li/3OYuV . 14:30:42 0/ 14:30:47 owo/ 14:31:53 * medicalwei[m] pokes szlin ...? 14:33:17 Let's go ahead 14:33:29 #topic 1 - Sponsorship 14:34:08 Sent mail to Appier, Synology. 14:34:20 We have 4 sponsors mailed, 2 sponsors reached but not yet mailed (which are from me), and 1 (Quanta) unreachable 14:34:39 I'll try to send a few mails today 14:34:48 there are still a lot of sponsors to be reached 14:35:03 Try to reach gamesofa from my friend 14:35:53 Hideki (henrich) and Yutaka (gniibe) are going to find sponsors in Japan 14:35:59 cool 14:36:07 Who can take care of companies like HP, Google, ... ? 14:36:24 are older, sstablished sponsors being contacted? 14:36:35 czchen: anyone really 14:36:51 One of which includes Gandi, but from Taiwan branch. Should I let global team handover? 14:36:58 nattie: I guess not. Do not receive any mail related to these companies. 14:37:02 it's always a good idea to mail the compagnies who sponsored us in the previous years first 14:37:23 that shold really happen... 14:37:59 For older, sstablished sponsors, do we need the same contact person as previous? 14:38:21 on their end or on ours? 14:38:29 Our end 14:38:38 if the previous contact wants to do it it's ok, but not necessary 14:38:42 Probably theirs too. 14:38:52 I did a lof of them last year, lavamind too, and we won't be doing as much this year 14:39:03 by preference yes, but it's not imperative 14:39:06 How can we know if previous contact want to do or not? 14:39:24 Just ask (? 14:40:07 Pollo, can you help advise this year's sponsor-contact people. It's nice to have known correspondents in the loop. Helps smooth communications. 14:40:19 lavamind too? 14:40:39 sure, as I said previously, I plan to do some of them this year 14:40:42 just not all of them 14:40:50 that can be discussed team-internally i think 14:40:54 +1 14:40:56 Even being available for cc might be helpful. 14:41:28 focusing on translation the brochure in mandarin should be a priority imho 14:41:54 The flyer is translated into Chinese by me, but the URL for chinese brochure is a 404 14:42:11 why 404? 14:42:13 Also I want to use deb.li because it is easier to type than to scan QR code 14:42:25 The chinese translation of the brochure is not ready yet 14:43:12 But at the time of me doing the translation the deb.li was unavailable... 14:43:32 medicalwei[m]: Do you put zh_tw flyer to media.debconf.org ? 14:43:46 No. Hold on 14:44:00 Do I have the access to that? 14:44:24 I guess so, https://anonscm.debian.org/git/debconf-data/media.debconf.org.git 14:44:37 OK I will do that later. 14:45:14 #action medicalwei to put translated flyer and brochure to media.debconf.org 14:45:21 * larjona says hello 14:45:30 hi larjona 14:45:57 heyhey larjona 14:46:07 I will spend some time sending the sponsorship mails in sponsors-list. 14:47:11 #action pollo , lavamind and others volunteers to contact previous sponsors for thie year. 14:47:26 ! :) 14:47:45 you'll have to do some of it too :D 14:47:54 about potential sponsors, I have a suggestion and a petition: please have a look at https://www.debian.org/users/ , you may find candidates for sponsors in the Taiwan or nearby Debian users. If you contact some of them, please consider asking them check/update their info in www.d.o/users (it may be outdated). Count with me for any update/addition/removal on that section of the website 14:48:12 And I am going to IT month in December for promoting Debian and DC18, and I will put sponsorship information and printed flyers and brochure and stickers at the venue 14:48:54 larjona: thanks for the info. 14:49:23 That's great medicalwei[m], It's good to have your graphics skills there too. 14:50:05 larjona: by simple glancing the page I found (almost) no Taiwanese company on the list 14:50:52 I probably need budget to print flyers and stickers. Should send a mail to trasurer for such spending? 14:50:52 Can focus on "our first Asian debconf" when asking for updates to https://www.debian.org/users/ 14:53:46 medicalwei[m], no response to your budget question? 14:54:17 work should be done to come up with a global budget for the conf 14:54:25 then that budget should get approved by the DPL 14:54:35 once that is done, you can spend the money 14:54:50 you can also spend some before the budget approval, just not tons of it 14:55:30 Ok... I will probably spend 3000 NTD (or less) for printed goods 14:56:10 #action medicalwei to print flyers and stickers at the print shop 14:56:43 Is that okay to go to the next topic? 14:57:35 #topic 2 - Website update 14:58:03 The https://media.debconf.org/reports/ seems stuck at DC15 14:58:29 yeah, about that 14:58:47 highvoltage: poke poke, dc16's final report? :D 14:59:04 we should start dc17's one soonish 15:00:10 DC18's wafer is not yet online. Should we start it sooner or we can leave that for another month? 15:01:21 poke tumbleweed ? 15:01:41 what is the registration timeline you are planning to go with? 15:01:42 * medicalwei[m] pokes tumblingweed and tumbleweed (?? 15:02:12 website needs to be up and running by the start of the registration period 15:02:23 and it will need some work prior to that 15:03:05 We wrote on the timeline on March 2018 15:03:18 I think early registration is better for attendees to get cheap tickets. 15:03:53 We postponed a lot according to the timeline O_O 15:04:21 *a lot of things 15:04:24 Who normally works on wafer? 15:04:38 czchen: ideally yes, but we have to work with what is really available 15:04:47 having registration start late caused us problems last year in term of accommodation and sponsorship 15:05:09 there will be work happening on it next week 15:05:20 nice 15:06:04 https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf18/Timeline 15:06:10 Should we estimate registration opening in March? 15:06:29 that seems usual 15:06:47 You need wafer open before, to accept the proposals (talks, events...) submissions... 15:06:52 You -> we 15:07:08 Our plan for CfP is at February 15:07:40 Call for Papers 15:08:00 we don't really do papers anymore 15:08:30 call for talk proposals 15:09:39 Anyways... so 15:10:19 #action website team (tumbleweed, tumblingweed, medicalwei[m], etc.) to put wafer available before calling for proposals (scheduled Feb 2018) 15:10:41 I put cfp and estimated registration openning in Feb & March on timeline. 15:11:10 oops, that was 2017... 15:11:17 #action medicalwei[m] to update the timeline 15:12:16 #action highvoltage to put DC16 final reports on media.debconf.org 15:12:17 (? 15:13:14 sorry, just an edit error. 15:13:20 #topic 3 - DC17 Status Update 15:13:47 #save 15:13:49 the dc17 website is ready to become static now 15:13:54 tumbleweed: ^^ 15:14:18 I still have to import the bursaries data in ledger, but that's all 15:14:27 accoutning is thus 95% done 15:14:48 I've tried to convince folks that we should start working on the final report 15:14:58 I guess we'll meet in Dec to do that 15:15:13 I guess that sums it up 15:15:33 #info dc17 website is ready to be static 15:15:53 #action pollo and other members from DC17 team to work on the final report 15:16:35 #info accounting is 95% done 15:16:58 #topic 4 - DSA Migration 15:17:17 I've ping DSA about the kanboard migration today 15:19:07 (oops i didn't use the kanboard for a long while) 15:19:28 :p sorry for late, just talked with potential sponsor 15:19:30 kanboard still thinks you are working on meettaiwan 15:19:49 yeay szlin :) 15:19:58 Delib: for that the proposal is already sent. (will put it in Misc) 15:20:07 (Thanks for reminding) 15:20:13 :) 15:20:38 (coffee helps me smile more now) :) 15:21:06 And nattie, for the wafer you said there's something going to happen. Is that DSA infra related? 15:21:50 i don't believe so, not directly anyway 15:21:50 #info mailing list migrated to lists.debian.org 15:22:25 I see 15:22:38 So what remains to be migrated or discarded or archived? 15:23:14 * medicalwei[m] rushs to mailbox and check them 15:23:54 the list webpages (with subscription) are still in lists.dc.o 15:24:58 I think we should go to general debconf website and wiki, and update the links for our mailing list 15:25:17 #info the list webpages (with subscription) are still in lists.dc.o 15:25:54 0/ gotta run 15:26:10 bye for now pollo 15:26:30 #info DSA is pinged about migrating kanboard to Debian infra 15:27:20 cate, do those update suggestions need a decision? 15:27:44 Delib: what do you mean @@? 15:28:28 should "update the links for our mailing list". 15:29:07 Delib: no. just volunteers 15:29:09 #action anyone with right permissions to update wiki and website for the mailing list links 15:29:43 #topic 99 - Miscellaneous 15:29:45 I could volunteer, but need to research the new info. Not familiar. 15:30:12 Probably just replace "lists.debconf.org" to "lists.debian.org" (?) 15:30:18 ok 15:30:34 will look at it. 15:30:42 possibly some directories un URL should be changed. We should look it 15:31:41 #info Dr. Huang from NCTU submitted proposal for MEET TAIWAN fund. We estimate there will be 12 invited speakers sponsored for flight tickets and meals 15:32:01 For miscelaneous: we should, I think, start the selection of dc19 15:32:05 but the actual number from the fund orga is not yet sure 15:33:02 #info debconf-team to start the selection of DC19 bids 15:33:03 Thanks for number of 12 invites. Hopefully it will not sidetrack content team too much with changed criteria for invitations. 15:33:17 OdyX: ^^ 15:33:42 We will need speaker bios and probably list them as "invited speakers" 15:33:56 cate: indeed. 15:33:56 (And they will need printed flight tickets) 15:34:15 cate: I'm underwaters, but will see what we can get the DCC to do 15:34:51 OdyX: nothing urgent, but some question are starting (deadline for bid process) 15:35:00 (by underwater, does it mean someone is inactive of somewhere?) 15:35:20 #info MeetTaiwan funding for up to 12 invited speakers will require speaker bios. 15:35:26 medicalwei[m]: no, it means: extremely busy 15:35:39 almost drowning in work. 15:35:53 ++ 15:36:53 do we have anything yet to report? thinks as if he missed something 15:37:06 #save 15:38:42 Wrapping it up :) 15:38:51 Thanks medicalwei[m] 15:38:52 #endmeeting