13:59:13 <pollo> #startmeeting 13:59:13 <MeetBot> Meeting started Mon Apr 3 13:59:13 2017 UTC. The chair is pollo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 13:59:13 <MeetBot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 13:59:23 <pollo> #topic Roll Call 13:59:36 <pollo> Please say hi if you are here for the meeting! 13:59:43 <paulliu55> hi 13:59:45 <medicalwei> Hi / 13:59:47 <pollo> meanwhile, here's the agenda: http://deb.li/il9wc 13:59:49 <DLange> o/ Ola 14:00:12 <hare1039> hi 14:00:30 <LeLutin> hi 14:00:30 <czchen> hi 14:00:34 <sirzerator> hi 14:00:52 <medicalwei> Commuting so cannot be always active here 14:01:30 <pollo> lavamind, tiago? 14:01:50 <lavamind> hello! 14:02:27 <pollo> all right, let's roll 14:02:31 <lavamind> I removed some items from the agenda as I don't think there was any reason to keep them 14:02:31 <pollo> #topic Registration 14:02:34 <azeem_> hi 14:02:55 <pollo> tumbleweed: are you here? 14:03:14 <lavamind> we must open this week, otherwise we will have to delay the deadline for bursary application, which is may 1st (according to plan) 14:03:25 <pollo> last week we said registration was still closed because some wafer integrations are not done yet 14:03:33 <madduck> . 14:03:34 <highvoltage> o/ 14:03:41 <pollo> i.e, it does not mark you as registered 14:04:03 <pollo> but I agree with lavamind 14:05:13 <jathan> Hello 14:05:14 <pollo> plot, I don't think tumbleweed is here 14:05:29 * lavamind concerned. 14:05:37 <pollo> #action pollo to follow up with tumbleweed to open registration this week 14:05:46 <pollo> nah, he's just busy with work 14:05:57 <pollo> anything else to add on Registration? 14:05:57 <lavamind> oh yeah I know 14:06:03 <highvoltage> he's stuck in traffic: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39461866 14:06:07 <lavamind> still concerned about this galring bottleneck 14:06:15 * lavamind eyes dc18 folks 14:06:25 <medicalwei> @@ 14:06:32 * medicalwei eyes back 14:06:59 <lavamind> we can move on I suppose 14:07:05 <pollo> #topic Content 14:07:42 <pollo> tiago said he started a draft for Open Day Cfp: https://pad.riseup.net/p/jivn6jx6Rz22 14:07:47 <tiago> hi 14:07:52 <pollo> 0/ 14:08:04 <tiago> got disconnected by proxy and didn't notice grrr 14:08:26 <tiago> (what did i miss)? 14:08:44 <cate_> hi 14:08:47 <DLange> #save 14:08:52 <pollo> #save 14:08:56 <tiago> so seems we're in content topic 14:09:15 <DLange> http://meetbot.debian.net/debconf-team/2017/debconf-team.2017-04-03-13.59.log.txt 14:09:18 <pollo> tiago: yup. seems lavamind and you chased one another this week regarding Open Day 14:09:47 <lavamind> yeah we'll get it done this week, sorry about that 14:09:48 <tiago> couldn't make the CfP, hard week 14:09:58 <tiago> but we're getting there 14:10:18 <tiago> we need a track in the system 14:10:30 <tiago> "Open Day" track 14:10:43 <pollo> gwolf: any updates on inviting people for Keynotes? 14:10:53 <pollo> we haven't talked about this in a while 14:10:58 <tiago> pollo, he can't make it today 14:11:05 <pollo> oh, ok 14:11:07 <tiago> but I'm here to report 14:11:17 <tiago> talked to him yesterday 14:11:50 <tiago> we have two confirmed speakers from US 14:11:56 <tiago> one local to be confirmed 14:12:26 <tiago> and another one who started a conversation but hasn't answer for a long time 14:13:14 <tiago> so it's likely we'll have 2 remote invited + 1 local 14:13:25 <pollo> great news 14:13:33 <tiago> we'll estimate the budget for those two 14:13:48 <tiago> and will 'give back' to the team what we won't use 14:13:54 <tiago> which is also good :) 14:14:13 <madduck> there are other candidates as well, but unfortunately there seems to be not only little interest, but active resistance to the concept of inviting speakers from some people in the content team. 14:14:37 <tiago> pollo, that's it 14:14:40 <tiago> my report 14:14:48 <lavamind> thanks tiago 14:15:30 <pollo> #topic Artwork 14:15:34 <pollo> T shirts! 14:15:43 <lavamind> we talked about this last meeting ... 14:15:46 <tiago> please have a look https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf17/Artwork#T-Shirt 14:15:53 * highvoltage fixes humerous typo in agenda 14:15:53 <pollo> lavamind: we said tiago was not ready 14:15:56 <lavamind> the decision on tshirts is deffered to sunday's meeting 14:16:01 <pollo> lavamind: we have loads of time today 14:16:14 <lavamind> not I 14:16:27 * DLange likes the 01 ones 14:16:28 <pollo> and I feel other folks have to have a say in tshirt decisions 14:16:35 <pollo> not just local folks 14:16:47 <lavamind> pollo: sure, I don't see why it has to be during this meeting 14:16:57 <highvoltage> pollo: I need to avoid traffic so if we can not linger to long that would be great :) 14:17:24 <pollo> let's give everyone 3 minutes to comment on the tshirts 14:17:26 <pollo> and the move on 14:17:33 <pollo> does that sound right? 14:17:43 <lavamind> fine 14:17:43 <pollo> renata will have infos to act upon afterwards 14:17:59 <tiago> ok we don't need to decide now 14:18:20 <azeem_> the STAFF and VIDEO texts look a bit big in the last images 14:18:23 <tiago> just have a look, leave your comments and we'll decide later 14:18:25 * pollo likes the video01 and staff01 a lot 14:18:27 <azeem_> is that pixel-perfect, or ust a placeholder? 14:18:41 <tiago> azeem_, yes, seems a placeholder 14:18:52 <tiago> but i'll add that comment there 14:18:57 <tiago> just in case.... 14:19:13 <pollo> the attendees02 reminds me of France's flag a little too much 14:19:23 <DLange> I suggest staying with yellow for Video as otherwise people with DC15 shirts will be easy to confuse with video team of DC17 14:19:25 <lavamind> imho 01's are great 14:19:28 <DLange> (https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/T-shirt_colors) 14:19:35 * LeLutin staff01, video01 and attendees02 14:20:00 <highvoltage> LeLutin++ 14:20:00 <DLange> otherwise as said above and what lavamind supports. My vote would be for the 01 batch of designs. 14:20:01 <lavamind> yellow could also work for video, with the sale print colors 14:20:15 <lavamind> s/sale/same/ 14:20:32 <pollo> blah, yellow is always such a hard color to wear :p 14:20:44 <pollo> 3 minutes are up! 14:20:45 <tiago> please leave your comments in the wiki 14:21:07 <pollo> #info Please leave comment on the wiki about tshirts: https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf17/Artwork#T-Shirt 14:21:08 <tiago> it'll be important when we get back to renata to finish the work 14:21:20 <pollo> #topic DebConf16 Final Repor 14:21:23 <pollo> highvoltage: ! 14:21:28 <highvoltage> I'll be super quick 14:21:34 <highvoltage> I added the following to the report: 14:21:34 <highvoltage> 2017-04-03 - highvoltage is aiming to sort out at least half of the remaining issues on final report by next week! 14:21:44 <DLange> yeah! 14:21:57 <highvoltage> (I mean agenda) - aiming to have it in shape by no later than 2 weeks from now so that we can get final round of feedback and release 14:22:11 <lavamind> \o/ 14:22:28 <highvoltage> last month was all kinds of crazy but this one seems a lot better so I think we can push and get it done 14:22:34 <highvoltage> that's all for dc16 final report for today! 14:22:41 <pollo> #info plan is to have the dc17 final report ready for review in 2 weeks 14:22:50 <highvoltage> *dc16 14:22:59 <pollo> yeah yeah 14:23:05 <bremner> why not both? 14:23:06 <pollo> #info plan is to have the dc16 final report ready for review in 2 weeks 14:23:07 * bremner hides 14:23:18 <highvoltage> bremner: maybe focus on dc15 so long first ;) 14:23:21 * pollo hires a fortune teller 14:23:38 <pollo> #topic DC18 status update 14:24:08 <czchen> ocf bylaws translation is done by translator, need review. 14:24:19 <czchen> Will start TO process after new DPL is elected. 14:24:28 <medicalwei> By translator you mean machine translation? 14:24:38 <czchen> Yes 14:24:58 <medicalwei> We need to work on prettifying and reviewing the output of the translation. 14:25:00 <czchen> I do some modification for better human understand. 14:25:21 <pollo> since it's such an official document, couldn't ocf hire a professional? 14:25:49 <medicalwei> This should be possible. We could ask if the output of machine translation is okay to ease their efforts. 14:25:50 <czchen> They don't have plan for English version right now, so we just do it ourselves. 14:26:13 <lavamind> medicalwei: please don't submit mahcine translation to a professional translator, you will create an eveny! 14:26:20 <lavamind> enemy* 14:26:48 <medicalwei> Since Chinese to English translation is considered a difficult problem to human and let alone computers. 14:26:50 <lavamind> I know translators, and such translations done by software is 100% worthless to them 14:26:54 <czchen> Just too many legal and finance term for me to do the translation. 14:27:17 <pollo> I just feel translating bylaws can be quite hard to do and we need something that is done right 14:27:21 <medicalwei> So we can utilize the output and rework base on the translations. 14:28:13 <czchen> Maybe we shall contact Lucien Lin for translation? 14:28:24 <medicalwei> czchen: should be possible. 14:28:30 <czchen> He is expert in technical law. 14:28:55 <medicalwei> #info ask human translators for OCF bylaws for TO process 14:29:24 <medicalwei> Hmmm....(?) 14:29:43 <czchen> hare1039: any update for venue? 14:29:49 <hare1039> We fonud the vip room behind the main room may suitable for front desk room, only it can be locked by security. Is that OK? 14:30:12 <bremner> depends on hours, can they do it any time? 14:30:12 <DLange> if security is available at short notice to do this 14:30:33 <hare1039> They come only on weekdays 14:30:43 <pollo> not a good idea then 14:30:45 <hare1039> And not at night 14:30:55 <DLange> that won't work then 14:30:58 <pollo> we had trouble with that kind of thing at dc16 14:31:02 <hare1039> OKey 14:31:05 <DLange> ask whether we can have a key / key card 14:31:40 <hare1039> Sure 14:32:00 <hare1039> Another question is how many rooms we need to prepare for the people that will come one day before start and left one day after the DC18? 14:32:22 <pollo> hare1039: normally we don't prepare anything for these people 14:32:35 <pollo> and let them rent hotel rooms by themselves 14:33:06 <DLange> the core team usually arrives early and leaves late 14:33:06 <hare1039> OK 14:33:40 <pollo> hare1039: can people rent rooms at the dorm by themselve outside of the conference? 14:34:22 <hare1039> There are some hotels near the school. I think yes. 14:34:41 <medicalwei> pollo: do you mean that do people being restricted in the campus if they rent a dorm? 14:34:49 <medicalwei> I think not... 14:34:50 <hare1039> the dorm I need to ask 14:35:05 <czchen> As I know, there are some guest rooms in NCTU and NTHU, but I am not sure if they are suitable or not. 14:35:33 <DLange> this would be good to find out and document on the wiki 14:35:42 <medicalwei> They need special requirements for NCTU but I don't know in NTHU case 14:35:44 <DLange> that way people have the information for their travel plans 14:36:17 <medicalwei> (Though I was a student in NTHU ;w;) 14:37:06 <czchen> Any other update for DC18? 14:37:19 <medicalwei> 清華會館 (NTHU guest house) is open to public 14:37:55 <medicalwei> But special requirements apply. 14:38:36 <pollo> blue hairs required! 14:38:57 <pollo> anything else on this topic? 14:39:12 <medicalwei> We can go ahead I think 14:39:27 <czchen> no topic from me 14:39:30 <pollo> #topic Misc 14:39:43 <tiago> i missed the registration 14:39:45 <tiago> topic 14:39:53 <pollo> videoteam is _trying_ to pull off a second sprint 14:39:58 <pollo> might or might not happen 14:40:00 <LeLutin> reminder to local dc17 folks: the next in person meeting is next sunday 14:40:07 <tiago> so i'd like to ask a new track in waffer 14:40:13 <tiago> for the open day 14:40:45 <pollo> #action tumbleweed to add an Open Day track in wafer prod CfP 14:40:58 <pollo> I think only he has access to prod admin console atm 14:41:41 <DLange> tiago has admin access, so has gwolf and 6 others 14:41:49 <medicalwei> tiago: Tumbleweed is not available right now, and pollo needs to update the registration info with tumbleweed. 14:42:26 <pollo> tiago: you can add a track yourself then, it's in Django admin 14:42:29 <tiago> we're not in a hurry 14:42:38 <tiago> pollo, great then 14:42:54 <tiago> I'll do that before we send the cfp 14:42:55 <pollo> it's literally 3 clicks 14:42:57 <tiago> :) 14:43:14 <pollo> #endmeeting