15:30:44 #startmeeting 15:30:44 Meeting started Mon Feb 13 15:30:44 2017 UTC. The chair is pollo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:30:44 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 15:30:50 #topic Roll Call 15:30:55 meow! 15:31:00 please say hello if you arehere for da meeting 15:31:04 moo 15:31:06 or meow, whatever 15:31:26 proposed agenda: http://deb.li/il9wc 15:32:22 o/ Hello 15:32:36 o/ 15:33:01 … ? 15:33:01 #topic Content team 15:33:05 Good! 15:33:09 OK, we can report progress 15:33:16 As it shows in the agenda, we have sent out the CfP 15:33:24 * shirish[m] here. 15:33:41 and it seems several people were waiting for it, as we have 16 talks (last time I checked, 14, but I trust whoever-edited :) ) 15:34:05 that was me :) 15:34:09 ...We still have not pushed much for the Open Day CfP, although we do have an open day coordinator (Noel) 15:34:16 DLange: OK, I trust you! ;-] 15:34:34 gwolf: maybe get in touch with Noel via email, as he is not often on IRC 15:35:08 ...We have also pushed for some "order" in the team — As you know, I agreed to coordinate Content quite recently, and there was not even a list of who was part of the team. I've been trying to make it into a more formal list, if such a thing is possible 15:35:34 lavamind: sure - I'm basically just reporting interactions so far. Which have been few, sadly, but... Should move soon 15:35:54 ...As part of what I *didn't* know is the existence of a list of people we should discuss as whether to invite 15:36:29 gwolf: tvaz was working on that aspect, yes 15:36:34 (side note - I am personally not very happy with the term "keynote speaker", I prefer using "invited speaker" or something like that... Haven't checked with the rest of the team, but will push also for some kind of consensus on that) 15:36:57 lavamind: Yes. Some names from that list have been re-floated, and I expect this week we will make some movement on that front 15:37:08 good, good 15:37:31 keep us posted :) 15:37:41 Anyway - Before contacting any of them... Tricky question: How many people (or how many dollars - It probably makes some sense to think economically) are we looking to spend on invited speakers? 15:37:43 I'm fine with invited speaker as well 15:38:02 * pollo looks at our budget 15:38:18 +1 for invited speaker 15:38:23 8K CAD 15:38:31 that's what's budgeted 15:38:34 gwolf: I should send along a mail later today with ideas of people we could invite 15:38:37 OK! 15:38:41 nicoo: please do! 15:38:47 includes travel, food and accom though 15:38:59 Hello. Sorry I arrived late 15:39:06 cate: 0/ 15:39:15 tvaz: If you have the full list/spreadsheet, please update me/us via either #dc-content or content@dc 15:39:32 gwolf: that means if you invite speakers, they can't ask for bursaries 15:39:32 pollo: So... I think that would amount to ~3 people from North America, right? 15:39:39 roughly 15:39:51 depends a lot on accom choice 15:39:59 pollo: of course. Inviting means "come, you won't pay, we want you here no matter what" 15:40:42 a hotel room is 1400 CAD for a week 15:40:46 pollo: We should check later on the specifics of it (i.e. where to host them, whether to offer a full week, etc) 15:40:58 so yeah, I guess 3 ppl sounds about right if you pay the full thing 15:40:58 but that's a good starting point. 8K CAD. 15:41:08 pollo: if they skip saturday and sunday its 500 less 15:41:20 I think that's about it from me. Of course, anybody else with anything re:Content? 15:41:24 that price is if they arrive staurday 15:41:38 lavamind: I just did 200 * 7... 15:41:45 anyway, anything else to add ? 15:41:45 it's not 15:42:00 see the contract terms, each night is priced differently at the hotel 15:42:09 pollo: please #info this bit 15:42:24 #info at the moment, content team budget is 8K CAD 15:42:26 (I never know what actions need "chair" rights for meetbot) 15:42:45 #info a hotel room at Hotel universel for them would be 900 CAD for 5 days 15:43:04 * h01ger waves - *if* you hilight people in advance of a meeting, you might want to also add an additional hilight when the meeting *starts* :) 15:43:24 #topic Accommodation 15:43:36 did some work on the wiki this week for that 15:43:43 https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf17/Accomodation 15:43:43 the contracts with Hotel Universel and McGill are signed 15:43:49 \0/ 15:43:54 woo! 15:43:55 yay! 15:43:55 pollo: I will reformat this page 15:44:03 #info the contracts with Hotel Universel and McGill are signed 15:44:11 see the terms in the wiki 15:44:12 lavamind: sure, but all the basic info is there 15:44:16 cool. 15:44:16 err in git 15:44:45 I have been scratching my brain on how to best present the information on the wiki, and some bits are still missing 15:45:07 its somewhat more complex than âst years, we must make sure everything is clear 15:45:08 yay for signing! 15:45:36 I have also been thinking we need some kind of calendar for deadlines and deposits 15:46:18 there are a lot of the and if we don't automate reminders, we will miss some for sure 15:46:30 lavamind: what kind of deadlines 15:46:30 kanboard can do a calendar and reminders... 15:46:31 I'm not sure KanBoard is appropriate for that 15:46:37 even ical "export" 15:46:43 hrmm 15:46:54 oh, our deadlines and deposits 15:46:55 maybe if I configure another swimlane ? 15:46:59 not for attendees 15:47:05 no, for contract admin 15:47:25 ok I'll look at Kanboard for that 15:47:30 i think kanboard is good enough 15:47:39 if we start using dealines and proper timing on it 15:47:47 . o O ( One day I should familiarize myself with Kanboard, Kanban and its terminology.... So far, it only sounds funny ) 15:48:13 ok thats it 15:48:36 questions? 15:48:52 lavamind: the only missing bit our of the dc-announce letter is the accom bit 15:48:56 any eta? 15:49:03 after the meeting 15:49:06 tomorrow 15:49:26 #topic registration 15:49:43 I did not have time to play with wafer's registration form 15:50:12 I don,t know if other want to add anything? 15:50:17 As expected, I have got several questions re:registration after the CfP was opened 15:50:22 pollo: I'm still willing to help out design the form 15:50:25 People expect registration to exist 15:50:50 we should educate people 15:50:58 gwolf: our mail on dc-announce should clear all ambiguities 15:51:06 "all" :p 15:51:12 "lots of" 15:51:13 But also I had no time to check with wafer 15:51:16 This assumes people read mails, though 15:51:24 a beam of light will usher from this email LD 15:51:28 That assumes people are subscribed 15:51:42 account != registration for the conference <- for that ac-a letter 15:51:46 ...the CfP was also sent i.e. to planet and whatever. 15:51:57 Anyway, no harm done, I answer them to have a bit of patinece 15:52:00 everybody can create accounts now if they want to 15:52:01 but anyway :-] 15:52:02 possibly with CfP we could have added a paragraph about registration not yet open. But 15:52:10 registration opens $you_say_date 15:52:32 March 15 I think was the current plan 15:52:35 yup 15:52:37 cate: great idea, but too late :) 15:52:47 the mail is quite clear on registration deadlines 15:53:00 DLange: registration open when it is ready. I don't like dates and deadline (but for intern uses) 15:53:11 https://storm.debian.net/shared/H4YOX7fF56MrEuxLMPzAuGRb5dKoI3wplGjK1bZ6_Od 15:53:11 but ok 15:53:20 so one month to get registration ready 15:53:35 lavamind: March 15? OK, good to know. Somebody refered me to a Wiki page of "expected dates" where we still announced CfP and registration to open in January 15:53:38 lemme look for it... 15:53:48 so we can update it with the now-truth 15:53:58 #info dc-a email draft https://storm.debian.net/shared/H4YOX7fF56MrEuxLMPzAuGRb5dKoI3wplGjK1bZ6_Od 15:54:06 gwolf: that is the timeline, yes 15:54:12 yup 15:54:30 anything else to add on this topic? 15:54:35 Any opposition in me updating it _now_? (even if it documents the past) 15:54:41 March 15 is an internal target 15:54:49 hopefully we can open before 15:54:54 But moving "Registration opens" to March..? 15:55:02 yes that makes sense 15:55:04 OK 15:55:35 #topic venue 15:55:59 meeting tomorrow with the venue manager, pollo and I 15:56:05 I talked to Jean at the beginning of the week and he said he'd do the alcohol permit sutff 15:56:19 some files have been added to ownCloud, so he's done some work 15:56:22 it will be a long meeting but hopefully after that the last snags will be cleared up 15:56:54 the deadline to sign the contract was extended to Feb 24 (previously.. today) 15:57:25 mainly because they have been quite slow to integrate/approve changes we have been requesting 15:57:29 I think with this ^ you should get your budget approved 15:57:30 as well as provide info 15:57:37 DLange: agreed 15:57:45 I was waiting for that to finalize it 15:58:13 #info we will ask for budget approval once the venue contract will be signed 15:58:22 #info the deadline to sign the contract was extended to Feb 24 15:58:39 quite an expenditure to sign without an approved budget so probably send a draft to leader@ a week before the signature so he has a chance to speak up if he feels the need to 15:59:03 nah, if he does not approve the budget, pollo will happily cover it 15:59:05 DLange: I have been running all contracts through Mehdi so far 15:59:05 * gwolf hides 15:59:11 * larjona waves, late to the meeting, and commuting 15:59:27 yeah, I think he's quite aware of $$$ stuff 15:59:37 but still, I can do that 15:59:54 #action pollo to send a pre-approval budget to mehdi to ask for pre-approval 16:00:05 lavamind: you can move to CCs once you have an appoved budget :) 16:00:34 yeap 16:01:00 misc topic ? 16:01:00 anything else? 16:01:11 yes, in #misc 16:01:25 lavamind: hmm, what about wesbite and conf dinner? 16:01:33 just info points really 16:01:38 #topic misc 16:01:56 Emily Young from WikiMedia Foundation reached out to me 16:02:22 they are organizing a wikimedia event in Mtl in Aug 9-13 16:02:43 nice 16:02:45 so she asked if we'd be interested in cross-promoting our events 16:02:57 That would be great 16:03:10 if you have any ideas about how to do that: #debianb-publicity 16:03:20 I don't see why not. And I think we could even share some speakers! (thus decreasing our invited speakers expenditure? Hmmmm...) 16:03:22 "get a ticket for WikimediaConf and pay half-price on the DebConf tickets!" 16:03:39 so far I've just said I'd talk it over with the publicity team 16:03:40 pollo, lavamind: please explain the connection between McGill and RVC so the line "There may be available rooms during the week at RVC (Royal Victoria College), or in other residences" becomes understandable to a non-Montrealian (from the dc-a mail draft) 16:03:42 pollo: Eh, sounds like a plan 16:04:26 DLange: the accomodation part will be reviwed 16:05:00 hmm, any other misc? 16:05:02 We're preparing a blogpost thanking the first batch of sponsors. 16:05:03 lavamind: Can you "introduce" her to content@ so she does not get unexpected mail from us? 16:05:12 gwolf: sure 16:06:04 there was a huge snowstorm here and bremner might have disappeared under a shitton of snow 16:06:10 can we end? 16:06:26 regarding: confirmation mail on talk submission… i just check, i haven't gotten one, yet i have /talks/16 it seems 16:06:29 I thought we had a huge Sandstorm server... 16:06:30 checked 16:06:39 o/ 16:06:51 h01ger: ping tumbleweed ? 16:06:55 (bye not raise-hand :)) 16:07:06 tumbleweed: ^ what i just said 5 lines above 16:07:10 h01ger: I can confirm you your talk is in our list. 16:07:21 #endmeeting