18:57:44 #startmeeting 18:57:44 Meeting started Mon Sep 15 18:57:44 2014 UTC. The chair is marga. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 18:57:44 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 18:57:49 so german 18:57:52 Hi all. If you haven't already, please have a look at the agenda, it includes background information on the subjects that we expect to touch during the meeting: 18:57:58 #link https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf15/Germany/Minutes/2014-09-15#Agenda 18:58:05 Can we do a very quick roster call? Everyone that's here, please say "hi" (or equivalent) 18:58:10 \o/ 18:58:11 oi 18:58:14 hi 18:58:15 salut! 18:58:16 Hola 18:58:16 hi 18:58:17 hi 18:58:17 <_rene_> hi 18:58:19 hi 18:58:20 hi 18:58:27 hi 18:58:27 hi 18:58:30 moin 18:58:30 hi 18:58:32 hej 18:58:41 Thanks :) 18:58:42 #topic Electing a "poker" 18:58:47 I sent an email yesterday explaining this role 18:58:51 #link https://lists.debian.org/debconf15-team/2014/09/msg00068.html 18:58:56 Do we have volunteers for it? 18:59:33 I'm proposing myself as a poker. I think I would do better here than in other tasks. 18:59:42 Of course, if someone else prefers to do this, I'll happily move aside. 18:59:51 I hear silence ;) 18:59:52 * madduck votes for maxy 18:59:58 * rhalina too 19:00:10 +1 19:00:13 +1 19:00:23 * conny_ too 19:00:31 * manuel too 19:00:31 #agreed Maxy to be the poker. 19:00:36 #topic Verein status 19:00:41 madduck sent a status update today, including some details of why this is not yet finalized 19:00:44 hi 19:00:46 #link https://lists.debian.org/debconf15-team/2014/09/msg00071.html 19:00:46 hi 19:00:50 Are there any questions on this topic? 19:00:59 why is all of this going to debconf15-team? 19:01:20 (maybe I should just subscribe there, then ...) 19:01:23 gaudenz, because it's stuff that pertains local orga? 19:01:26 because the Verein is considered a necessary evil and we preferred to spare you of the details. 19:01:28 hi 19:01:53 I guess people are saying hi at random times, so hi 19:01:56 yes, subscribe to dc15-team if you are interested in following the gory details. 19:01:58 i think madducks mail explains everything, at least to me being still pretty new 19:02:02 other questions? 19:02:12 no meetbot? 19:02:21 it's being meetbotted 19:02:37 maxy as poker sounds good 19:02:38 .oO(I just subscribed… But things concerning DC15 should slowly move to debconf-team) 19:02:39 ah, missed the rollcall. 19:02:41 Will it ever end? (the bureacracy needed I mean) 19:02:56 maxy: yes. we are almost there. 19:02:58 bremner: it meant "i thought i could not make it, but i did make it" 19:03:06 #topic Website status 19:03:10 _rene_, you have the floor 19:03:26 sur5r: yes, madduck's summary was pretty much perfect 19:03:51 21:07:55 -!- idle : 0 days 0 hours 5 mins 31 secs [signon: Mon Sep 15 03:33:46 2014] 19:03:54 <_rene_> well, it's there, it has the dates, it will be updated with whatever comes up. Actually I have no idea why this is a separate topic now that summit is out of it, but... ;) 19:04:12 Can we use the white background by default? 19:04:22 Where are we? What's pending? Who's doing it? 19:04:23 the white background bug is gone, /me notices 19:04:30 <_rene_> yeah 19:04:35 * azeem still thinks we shouldn 19:04:43 the white is a tad overly bright, but way more friendly than the black/red imo 19:04:48 maxy: for a start, the logo needs to be inverted 19:04:58 the black logo right now is fugly 19:05:00 on white 19:05:12 if you feel strongly, maybe you can propose something? 19:05:13 madduck: that could be faded in to 19:05:26 i can try to gimp something, but no promises made 19:05:38 other than the default colour, we're all reasonably happy? 19:05:45 <_rene_> valessio fixed it a few mins before the talk in Portland :) 19:05:48 i suggest we keep it as is for now until we have two alternatives, and then vote 19:05:53 't have #000000 and #ffffff as colors, but oh well 19:05:53 we have the dark logo from the brochure? 19:05:56 I don't know, we still have no content to add it. 19:06:00 I believe that if polled the general opinion would be that the white background version is less harsh on eyes. 19:06:16 Ok, then maybe we make a poll to be certain? 19:06:18 then we need it fixed 19:06:31 maxy: other than random news like "we started the sponsorship drive", what content do we have? 19:06:38 so maxy and RichiH, can you be in charge of this, and coordinate with _rene_ and valessio? 19:06:55 <_rene_> we also could enable the feed maybe 19:07:09 <_rene_> when there's someting sensible in it of course 19:07:12 s/could/should/ once we have content 19:07:13 RichiH: we could possibly start adding information about the venue 19:07:14 right 19:07:15 madduck: and if maxy and me don't do it, maxy can poke us! 19:07:16 We could add the sponsorship brochure, or at least mention it. 19:07:16 wait... 19:07:27 <_rene_> (commented out, like much things, like visa, sponsorship brochure, etc.) 19:07:37 Who volunteers for doing the poll regarding which one is the default? 19:07:39 we can link to the video of presentation of debconf15 in debconf14 19:07:42 <_rene_> which can be added when that one's officially official :) 19:07:51 maxy: yah, linking the brochure along with a blurb that we started sponsorship and if people know potential sponsors, they should tell us or forward the brochure 19:07:53 larjona: great idea! 19:07:54 * larjona just watched it two hours ago 19:07:55 maxy: yup - a download would be great 19:08:07 #idea Add the DC15 talk somewhere to the website 19:08:22 #idea Make a poll regarding which background to use as default 19:08:22 unless people will think we can't figure out tech stuff, like projectors and resolutions 19:08:32 <_rene_> heh 19:08:41 #idea add a news item about sponsorship drive starting and either sending potential sponsors our way or to forward the brochure 19:08:55 So, who's doing this stuff? 19:08:56 RichiH: eh, no_ 19:09:11 sponsorship is later in the meeting, so let's not jump to conclusions 19:09:12 I need target to poke about things, so you need to say I'll do this. :) 19:09:14 the minutes say: Sponsors should not be contacted without first coordinating with the team. 19:09:21 but we can forward the brochure anyhow? 19:09:25 It needs to be coordinated with fundraising, but it can be done. 19:09:28 cts_: no. 19:09:28 21:10 < azeem> sponsorship is later in the meeting, so let's not jump to conclusions 19:09:31 <_rene_> and what if sponsors contact *us*? 19:09:31 azeem: idea != agreed 19:09:36 21:10 < azeem> sponsorship is later in the meeting, so let's not jump to conclusions 19:09:39 <_rene_> by reading the website? 19:09:49 azeem: :) 19:09:50 <_rene_> there's a "Become Sponsor" there... 19:10:10 <_rene_> ("stolen" from DC14) 19:10:12 This should be coordinated with fundraising team, nothing more. 19:10:19 But we still need volunteers. 19:10:30 There's a lot of people around... :) 19:10:32 I can write some lines to add the DC15 talk somewhere to the website, but I think other person should review and actually update the site 19:10:44 I'll send the proposal to the list ok? 19:10:48 larjona: sounds good 19:10:56 <_rene_> larjona: jup, sounds good 19:10:57 larjona: it could be a DC15-specific blog entry, which would be the first to show up in the RSS 19:11:04 ok 19:11:04 I think you can assign the "news item" to sponsorship team.. I can be placeholder for now. I'll make sure it's on the sponsorship-team agenda for next meeting. 19:11:04 #agreed larjona to take on adding the DC15 talk to the website somewhere. 19:11:37 #agreed bgupta (or someone delegated by him) to add sponsors news item to the website 19:11:41 And the poll? 19:11:48 larjona: maybe CC the debian news people when sending the draft; they may improve it and/or push it to other channels 19:11:50 can we just email -team and ask? 19:11:59 If we need poll software, I'm out. 19:12:09 Well, someone needs to be in charge and using dudl or the like should be easy enough 19:12:15 I vote for no discussion on the list but just a simple poll. 19:12:16 marga: let maxy do that, even though he's the poker. He brought it up. 19:12:22 Ok 19:12:37 #agreed maxy to bring a poll to -team regarding default colors 19:12:38 Hi 19:12:43 I think it's better than we blog, and after that, we can add some lines in the next DPN linking to the blog 19:12:49 I still don't get it - why shouldn't there be a download link for the brochure? 19:13:00 larjona: yes. Let's talk about this after the meeting and I can help point you in the right direction. 19:13:06 ok 19:13:16 jmux: fundraising has not yet started, but will any day. *Then* we can 19:13:21 #topic Summit status update 19:13:22 We just need to wait for the team now. 19:13:26 summit… 19:13:27 The agenda contains links to the TODO list and notes from the summit meeting at DC14. If you have feedback or stuff for the TODO list, please feel free to edit. 19:13:30 I can pull some of the past copy we sent announcing fundraising efforts as a starting point. we've gotten in dpl bits, and dpn.. 19:13:37 #info Summit is the new registration/attendee system that was used for DC14 instead of pentabarf, it uses Django and Python 19:13:47 #link https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/Summit#TODO 19:13:56 #link http://gobby.debian.org/export/debconf14/bof/summit 19:13:59 There will probably be a summit dev team soon, and if you are interested, let the chairs know. 19:14:02 Once the team started, there will also be a proposal about the future of the website integration. 19:14:09 * PSU Integration 19:14:14 yeah, remove it. 19:14:17 the TODO it needs cleanup post-DC14 19:14:23 any questions on summit? 19:14:25 PSU integration - hah 19:14:53 madduck: will we have a non-d.o, non-alioth SSO? 19:14:58 Any Django masters that would like to help there? 19:15:02 madduck: a generic "try to coordinate with the video team early-ish; they are not sure what system they will use next year, but make sure they know it'll be summit for registration" 19:15:17 azeem: enrico wanted to look into making this process better, but the gist is: no, alioth will stay 19:15:31 I didn't mean to throw out alioth 19:15:31 RichiH: CarlFK will be on the summit team, see the notes about the controller 19:15:46 just a third one for people not already on either 19:15:47 azeem: please talk to enrico about this. 19:16:16 .oO( Facebook/Google/Twitter sign-in ) 19:16:19 what's wrong with these people registering an alioth account? 19:16:30 if there's a problem with the alioth integration we should fix that, not just present more options 19:16:40 +1 19:16:46 tokkee: doubtful that Debian would go as far as accepting a SYN from there ;) 19:17:05 madduck: the video team was not very happy that CarlFK's infra ran on ubuntu, but that's for next year, i guess 19:17:09 Is there a summit team? 19:17:19 I think enrico is the point of contact for SSO, and if he is busy, then vorlon. 19:17:19 How can be the cleanup of DC14? 19:17:23 madduck: I wasn't serious ;-) 19:17:31 vorlon: ack 19:17:32 maxy: there will be. If you are interested, please let the chairs know. 19:17:33 post-DC14 I mean 19:17:53 vorlon: alioth is scary-ish to newcomers and everyone registering with alioth may be a bit spammy wrt user names 19:17:59 madduck: didn't zobel do some work on SSO as well? 19:18:09 and if you have a problem with the alioth integration, tell me. 19:18:12 RichiH: the complaints about this don't appear to originate with the alioth team 19:18:13 jathan: the first thing we plan to do is push as much upstream as possible, then clean up, then move on 19:18:26 RichiH: as for it being scary, I'm happy to help figure out how we can streamline it 19:18:37 RichiH: please feel free to propose an alternative to enrico, let's not discuss this here and now in the limited time we hjabve 19:18:41 well, if everybody is fine with alioth, so am I 19:19:05 #topic CCC and FrOSCon dates 19:19:07 The last we heard, CCC seemed very likely to fall in the middle of DebConf which is very very unfortunately, they hadn't yet finalized dates, so I asked for people with contacts to resort to begging, are there any news about this? 19:19:07 Ah ok, thank you 19:19:11 So, summit-team means "Debconf people maintaining some sort of fork" or "Debconf people working on summit upstream"? 19:19:33 tokkee: ideally, the latter. Please take this up with vorlon post-meeting. 19:19:37 i can clarify on the dates for the camp 19:19:45 and? :) 19:19:46 manuel, are they set? 19:19:46 marga: what does 'in the middle' mean? 19:19:58 azeem, there were two options and both were very bady 19:19:58 oh, nm 19:20:01 bad 19:20:08 manuel: go on… 19:20:35 last i heard, they are pretty much settled. i know someone of the core orga, we have regular contact via a different project. 19:20:41 i'll ask her 19:20:49 Ok, but do you have them? 19:20:52 i assume it will be 12–16 aug from what I heard 19:20:52 when..? 19:21:08 sur5r, you were the one in charge of the begging, if I recall clearly 19:21:25 madduck: this is also the last i heared. i'll check and report back. 19:21:28 Is there an order in the items agenda? 19:21:36 * Electing a "poker" 19:21:36 * Verein status 19:21:36 * Website status 19:21:36 * Child care at DC15 19:21:36 * CCC and FrOSCon dates 19:21:37 * DC14 final report 19:21:37 due to time zones, this will be a day or two ;) 19:21:39 * Budget (looking for volunteers) 19:21:41 * Fundraising (looking for volunteers) 19:21:42 https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf15/Germany/Minutes/2014-09-15#Agenda 19:21:43 * Airline partnerships 19:21:45 marga: not exactly 19:21:45 * General schedule format 19:21:47 * Time slot lengths 19:21:49 * Day trip (looking for volunteers) 19:21:51 * Conference dinner (looking for volunteers) 19:22:03 i said there is no need for begging 19:22:04 jathan, please don't do that. The order is in the wiki. 19:22:08 jathan: please don't flood 19:22:17 i mean, we skipped a point, but still 19:22:33 <_rene_> before we start this - I have something website'ish 19:22:37 ok 19:22:38 madduck: I was told there were 2 date options for the camp 19:22:39 <_rene_> thanks cts for pointing this out 19:22:40 ok 19:22:45 <_rene_> 19:22:55 <_rene_> we need a impressum, most probably, don't we 19:22:57 _rene_: eh, we're at CCC camp 19:22:59 (the order is the one in the wiki, not the one I sent earlier today) 19:23:03 <_rene_> 19:23:04 _rene_: Yes, we do. 19:23:25 sur5r, can you clarify "no need for begging"? 19:23:38 which topic are we at? ... 19:23:46 CCC dates 19:23:46 rhalina: /topic 19:23:48 <_rene_> sorry for interrupting 19:23:58 you should be getting to final report 19:24:05 azeem: that I saw but I was just confudsed 19:24:11 _rene_, cts_, tokkee: okay, I can help with imprint. post-meeting. 19:24:14 situation is as follow 19:24:14 yeah, we would if people finished their statements... 19:24:19 *follows 19:24:30 I'm waiting for sur5r, since this is something that we care about. 19:24:32 CCCamp would like to have the earlier week 19:24:45 sur5r: thanks 19:24:57 but they can't influence it 19:25:08 there is another event taking place on the same venue 19:25:10 I talked to scotty regarding froscon and they aim for the weekend after the camp (whenever the camp is) 19:25:14 IIRC right before the camp 19:25:21 let's finish up CCC first 19:25:24 ok 19:25:31 I thought it was ome topic sorry 19:25:32 and that one is not fixed yet, so the landlord can't give a fixed date to CCC 19:25:35 sur5r: so "earlier week" means 5-10 September? 19:25:42 eh, August 19:25:45 erm wait 19:26:02 ealier week is the week that only collides on the weekend 19:26:10 the laster week is DC week 19:26:15 *later 19:26:17 12-16 ? 19:26:25 #info CCC hasn't finalized dates yet, but they can't decide them either, they are waiting on landlord confirmation. 19:26:36 sur5r: so it's from what weekday to what weekday? 19:26:40 There's definitely no begging possible to have this earlier than that either? 19:27:08 no, i'm pretty sure that's not possible 19:27:11 ok 19:27:28 it's very unfortunate 19:27:34 rhalina, So, for FrOSCon, they are going to do it on the next week of the camp, regardless of us? 19:27:34 marga: my information matches sur5r's exactly 19:27:44 30 min warning. 19:27:47 marga: that's what they aim at at the moment 19:27:55 I think there's discussion space there 19:27:58 it's a shame, given that I informed CCCamp 369 days ago. 19:27:59 fyi, i poked CCC contacts via another channel 19:28:19 #info FrOSCon plans to have the conf 1 week after CCC, which would clash with our closing weekend if CCC is on 12-16 Aug. 19:28:22 RichiH: who did you poke, just for reference? 19:28:32 kay // frappzt 19:28:40 ok 19:28:41 he's NOC 19:28:42 ah 19:28:46 i know 19:28:48 marga: I talked to conny about FrOSCon, and the idea would be to have a bus go to St. Augustin on Saturday night 19:28:49 Is there anything we could do to make this better, at all? 19:28:56 and the Debian-relevant events would take place Sunday 19:29:15 sur5r, RichiH: i asked sva, fwiw 19:29:16 conny pings people in #froscon-orga 19:29:16 conny says that it would be a great asset to FrOSCon to have Debian folks show up, and better one full day than not at all 19:29:31 #info Debian relevant events at FrOSCon would happen on Sunday and we try to coordinate moving any attendees together on Saturday 19:29:50 manuel: kk 19:29:55 Ok, next 19:29:57 about synergies (or not) with other events, I heard in the debconf talk about the nearby university... but in August maybe Univs are pretty quiet, isn't it? Just to take into account (at least in Spain, there's nobody in the campus in August) 19:30:21 larjona: it's less so in Germany, but will be more quiet than usual I guess 19:30:29 #topic DC14 final report 19:30:29 marga: i don't get that summary. "moving any attendees together"? 19:30:31 larjona: what's the point? 19:30:35 #link https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf14/FinalReport 19:30:39 azeem, you have the floor 19:30:43 * azeem updated the status earlier 19:30:45 rhalina, larjona: please continue post-meeting. 19:30:49 np 19:30:49 ok 19:30:55 RichiH, well, madduck said bus, it could be train as well, just coordinated 19:30:55 We need moar people (that were at DebConf14) committing to single chapters. 19:31:02 oh, ok 19:31:09 (vorlon's number chapter is finished as a draft) 19:31:24 so we're pretty good with the essential ones 19:31:27 I think everyone who was at DC14 should pick one chapter to write and do so in two weeks. ;) 19:31:31 still has a couple of todos, but yes it's mostly complete 19:31:31 I intend to do the sponsor logos, generic typesetting and will likely tackle the blogposts list. 19:31:38 I think venue would be useful to have as well 19:31:39 with public shaming and all ;) 19:31:44 we could start poking network/video teams 19:31:49 azeem: wrt the talks part, I was waiting for you to mail talks@dc.o about it 19:31:53 nobody signed up for it 19:31:57 ...maxy? :) 19:31:57 could definitely use some typesetting on numbers.tex fwiw, there's a lot of extra vertical whitespace that I don't understand and wasn't visible in dc13's 19:31:59 ana: I can do that 19:32:09 vorlon: I can take a look 19:32:23 * azeem did typesetting for the last report 19:32:31 I can do day trip, food, welcome text 19:32:34 vorlon: we need more content , typesetting is likely for later. 19:32:42 should we even do a food section? 19:32:42 azeem: yeah, that was awesome. 19:32:48 Ok, one of the ideas was to poke the sponsored attendees. 19:32:48 I think that's nice-to-have this time... 19:32:52 nattie: could you write a chapter about registration, please? 19:33:12 maxy: yeah, getting specific attendee feedback would be useful 19:33:35 vorlon: do you think harmoney will write the two chapter she signed up for in the coming days? 19:33:47 I have some text re video. what should I do with it? 19:33:52 marga: I suggest we don't assign chapters here and now, but urge people, and maybe appoint someone to solicit feedback from attendees? 19:34:01 CarlFK: you can send it to me if you don't want to commit it 19:34:14 madduck: k, thanks. 19:34:42 azeem: the food section will take me 20 minutes to write. 19:34:42 madduck, urge which people? 19:34:51 I could try to poke attendees. 19:34:51 marga: everyone who went to dc14. 19:34:57 maxy the poker 19:34:58 we already have https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf14/FinalReport/Links 19:35:00 For attendee impressions or what? 19:35:15 yes 19:35:16 yes, and to assemble the best 19:35:18 I thought 19:35:35 probably we can have a guest book for dc15 for peoples impressions for our report 19:35:35 madduck: 21:36 < azeem> we already have https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf14/FinalReport/Links 19:35:35 #info If you went to DC14 please write an "attendee impression" about it 19:35:44 What's the expectation from attendee contributions? 19:36:02 required 19:36:05 azeem, oh, so we need someone to assemble the impressions? 19:36:11 I guess I can volunteer for that one. 19:36:11 tokkee: original and interesting content, specific aspects, personal stuff 19:36:20 \o/ 19:36:37 in (legalese) theory we need explicit agreement from them all, CC-BY-SA-3.0 (same for pictures) 19:36:40 marga: if you end up being short "impressions" I can write something up. 19:36:48 (I don't blog though) 19:36:57 Ok, let's move on 19:36:59 #topic Budget (who can help) 19:37:03 madduck, you have the floor 19:37:51 as I said in the table, it would be great to get some help from people who have debconf experience 19:37:55 and who can challenge assumptions. 19:38:19 we should try to get a real budget out by the time we have the Verein ready. 19:38:21 I suggest you reach out to vorlon, and darst. 19:38:23 i.e. October. 19:38:52 vorlon: can I assume you would be ready to help? 19:38:55 darst: and you? 19:39:01 for understanding: this would list possible expenses as near-ish as possible and sort roughly by priority? 19:39:29 no sorting really yet 19:39:31 (I'd also suggest hug, but I think he's helping to write it.) 19:39:37 assumptions are things like how many people will be there on the weekend, on wednesday, staying through sunday etc. 19:39:42 madduck: I can help, I have some more time now 19:39:50 hug: I was counting on you ;) 19:40:05 madduck: not even required (accomodation) and optional (coffee & snacks)? 19:40:12 yes, all that 19:40:18 okay, with vorlon and hug, we can do this. 19:40:34 * madduck assumes he can convince vorlon and/or darst 19:40:38 hopes 19:40:39 ok, moving on... 19:40:40 #topic Fundraising (who can help) 19:40:40 any questions? 19:40:48 #info We are done with the sponsorship brochure! But don't start mailing it to people just yet! 19:40:58 It could be nice to have a German version to send to German sponsors, do we have any volunteers for translation? 19:41:06 madduck: I can have a look over the budget too if it's drafted and you want a second opinion. 19:41:14 marga: i could do that 19:41:16 po4a should work as-is normally. 19:41:17 marga: i will 19:41:18 conny: ^^ do you think a german version of the brochure is worthwhile? 19:41:20 gaudenz: awesome, thanks. 19:41:22 ok, settled 19:41:36 conny and manuel… awesome 19:41:38 so maybe manuel can translate, and conny reviews/finalizes it 19:41:38 marga: If we want a german version - til when 19:41:40 i could also help 19:41:42 the po4a might need some massaging 19:41:45 I could help but need a deadline 19:41:45 I am sure OdyX can help ;) 19:41:46 i volunteer for proof-reading a german version 19:41:49 (that implies /me helping as well) 19:41:59 conny, do you want to coordinate with manuel and rhalina? It's a lot of text to translate, so it makes sense to split 19:42:11 Quesiton. Do we want to hold off reaching out to DE companies until translation is done? 19:42:17 marga: yep 19:42:22 marga: Do you really think it's worth having a german version. In .ch we did not feel the need for it at any point. 19:42:27 bgupta: I would say not for the ones we know anyway 19:42:32 IE: Do we want to make athis a blocker? 19:42:34 bgupta: I'd say no, we can send the english version and announce the german to follow, *if* we are confident we can keep a deadline 19:42:36 I would be quite surprised if we missed some sponsorship because it was in english. 19:42:50 gaudenz: i wouldn't be for some bronze levels 19:42:55 #agreed conny to coordinate translating the brochure with manuel and rhalina (and maybe help from OdyX regarding po4a) 19:43:00 gaudenz: .ch is quadrilingual, .de is not. 19:43:08 madduck: I'll look into the po4a. 19:43:15 meaning they'd be more open to it. 19:43:20 i think it is worthwhile 19:43:20 RichiH: maybe .de is different, you can probably better judge that. 19:43:30 #agreed this is not a blocker for sending the brochure for sponsors now 19:43:37 ack 19:43:39 Do we want a deadline for this? 19:43:41 03martin f. krafft 05master 181e639 06debconf-data/dc15 10sponsorship-brochure/l10n/messages.pot messages.pot updated (not translated) 19:43:41