20:00:33 #startmeeting DebConf11 organizational meeting 20:00:33 Meeting started Tue Jan 25 20:00:33 2011 UTC. The chair is darst. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 20:00:33 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 20:00:43 I am a debian user from Banja Luka..student ;) 20:00:55 hi everyone 20:01:03 darst: though maybe get other new people to wave first anyway 20:01:10 zlatan: (hi!) 20:01:17 everyone say hi and introduce yourselves 20:01:19 moray:hi 20:01:29 i'm darst, I sent out mails about this meeting, been helping since DC9 20:02:06 #chair moray 20:02:06 Current chairs: darst moray 20:02:10 i'm zlatan..found this list and i am from city where DC11 will be held 20:02:43 moray: ok, sure, let's start with local 20:02:44 hi, I'm Moray, organised DebConf7 and involved each year from before that until now (attended since DebConf3) 20:03:11 hi. I am Gunnar Wolf. I have (mostly) been part of DC orga teams since DebConf5, attended since DC3 as well 20:03:16 zlatan, please send your introduction to local team list, it's quite odd to have someone at a meeting from local team that I have noting about 20:03:28 now we're all going to introduce ourselves? :D 20:03:29 I know there are others here... new people... hi everyone 20:03:39 I'm Vedran, part of dc11 local team. 20:03:49 #topic About helping with DebConf 20:03:55 (people can keep introducing) 20:04:08 moray: speak up anytime 20:04:15 * e1th0r I'm Hector Colina from venezuela, latin american debian activist, participant in severals debconfs 20:04:21 so, DebConf is a big operation and needs lots of help 20:04:36 and we'd like new people to be able to help 20:04:51 Like most parts of Debian, the typical way to get involved in DebConf is simply to jump in and start helping with work -- this meeting is an opportunity to get teams started, though, and make getting involved easier 20:05:12 * leogg from the Nicaragua DC12 bid team... looking forward to meet you all in DC11 and see where I can be useful 20:05:17 we have a big list of different teams, and would like to get people involved in them 20:05:28 hi. I am muammar, DD. I have attended Debconf7 and Debconf8. I'd like to help this time 20:05:33 hi. I am Kan-Ru Chen. I saw darst's mail and thought if I can help something. I've no DC experiences though 20:05:42 yes, it might look big and scary, but that's because it's split up into compact units of what needs done 20:05:44 * h01ger waves and apologies for not really being here, i'll be back, have fun! 20:05:47 it's my desire to have a few new people on each team, and a at least one experienced person on each team to provide advice on past years 20:05:54 * brother- would be translated to Martin Bagge, swedish origin. visited dc10 and will probably go to dc11 and if so try to help out 20:06:00 Im Norman, Nicaraguan Team, first time here :) and i hope to help DC11 20:06:12 if everyone's doing it, I'm Adnan DebConf11 main organizer and local team leader :) 20:06:13 darst:I just jumped in list...but I can help DC until June... anything at all 20:06:16 * AbsintheSyringe waves :) 20:06:16 * an3as = Andreas Tille 20:06:27 some of the teams are more locally orinted, and you can't do much on them until DebConf starts unless you are local - but once DebConf starts, they will need lots of helping hands to do things 20:06:36 zlatan: right, helping with DebConf is the best way to learn how to run a future DebConf! 20:06:37 zlatan, for starters introduce yourself to local team #debconf11-bosnia 20:06:48 * faw == Felipe Augusto van de Wiel, from Brazil, helping since DebConf6 20:06:54 er, that was for nomadium 20:07:00 er, n0rman 20:07:01 the global tasks are mostly to be done before debconf, and everyone can help with 20:07:15 (irssi completion doesn't automatically do leet-speak?) 20:07:37 Hi, I'm Miguel Landaeta from Venezuela. Informal contributor and packager. I have never been in a DebConf. I would like to attend and help. 20:07:40 though some global tasks deal with personal information about attendees, and thus a certain level of trust within Debian is important 20:08:00 (and thus are better suited to experinced debian members) 20:08:09 * Caroll , from Brazil, wants to help in DC11 :) 20:08:12 * dkg is Daniel Kahn Gillmor, currently in NYC, i helped out with DC10. i'm hoping to make it to banja luka 20:08:34 you can also learn about what some of the teams do by reading http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/Jobs 20:08:44 #link http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/Jobs 20:08:57 Hi all, I'm Jose Antonio Quevedo, debian user since 5 years, I've attended DC's since DC9 20:09:13 is Joey Hess, I did some DebConfNewbies work for DC10 unaffiliated with the DebConf team and am still interested in finding ways for getting more 1st time attendees to DebConf 20:09:39 jeje 20:09:42 most DebConf-organising discussion happens on the debconf-team list, so it's a good idea to subscribe if you haven't already 20:09:50 joeyh: awesome, if there is anything we can do to help, just ask / let us know 20:10:03 #link http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team 20:10:04 #info debconf-team list is important to be on: http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team 20:10:31 moray: let's start with global / local teams, then local sub-teams, and then global sub-teams. does that sound good ? 20:10:34 there is also a 'localteam' list each year, and some separate lists for specific things like video 20:10:43 darst: sure 20:10:51 #topic "Global team" 20:11:13 "global" team and "local" team is DebConf jargon 20:11:21 I guess on the teams list this is sort of misnamed... everyone in this channel is on the "global team" 20:11:25 which kind of relates to two separate things 20:11:39 one is that "local" people are those who live near the venue, "global" is everyone else 20:12:08 but this list item referrs mostly to those who try to make sure nothing gets forgotten, and can accept complaints/comments from the outside and see to it that they get handled by the right peolpe 20:12:09 the other aspect is that "local" focus on local arrangements while "global" focus on things that can be done from anywhere 20:12:29 but you can have "local" people on "global" teams, and "global" people helping out with "local" tasks 20:12:49 Since moray and I are running this meeting, we are probably your most important peolpe there 20:13:32 #info moray / darst "global team", you can direct questions, comments, complaints to them and they make sure things don't get forgotten 20:13:45 but of course, you can go to anyone for help / advice 20:14:06 for completeness, the *other* DebConf jargon use is that "global" meetings are for everyone and all issues, "local" meetings only for "local" work 20:14:23 Ganneff and schultmc run the debconf infrasttructure (lists / pentabarf / video team relays / etc) 20:14:46 #info Ganneff and schultmc (and h01ger) are the currently the most active machine admins 20:15:01 anything else here? 20:15:32 #topic local team 20:15:39 while I'm explaining stuff: also note that some jobs start from now, while other jobs have little to do until much nearer the conference -- and some others are at dates between 20:16:30 AbsintheSyringe: who are the most important local peolpe for making sure things aren't forgotten and taking comments from the outside ? 20:17:13 myself, vedran_omeragic, (velimir) his missing and EnisDonKing at the moment at least 20:17:30 could I report the status of what's happening right now and what we are working on as a local team? 20:17:54 a report isn't necessary right now, but you should update us on the lists 20:18:05 k, that works as well 20:18:10 AbsintheSyringe: well, we don't want to delay the meeting just now with actual status -- about how many people do you have as "local team" so far, though? 20:18:15 #topic Local tasks 20:18:44 I'd say about 15 to 20 20:18:59 The local tasks here, so far, are things to be set up before peolpe arrive 20:19:00 AbsintheSyringe: normally you need to start poking local team members around this time, to get people who promised to help to actually start work :) 20:19:02 I'm Eduardo, Nicaragua Team, and i hope to help DC11 20:19:03 with the ones I mentioned above being the most important ones 20:19:05 hi, im jergas, aka edgar becerra, i helped with the mexican debconf and resurfaced last year in new york, this will be my first debconf which involves a plane ticket 20:19:08 hi, sorry im late 20:19:29 vedran_omeragic, maybe we should start poking them with todo list? 20:19:32 but once DebConf starts, there will be a meeting and everyone should attend that to provide on-site helping hands 20:19:33 on our local team 20:19:34 list 20:19:47 #topic travel team 20:20:17 listed on website right now is: Vedran Omeragic and Velimir Iveljic 20:20:34 that's me 20:20:41 this is "Coordinating arrivals/departures, finding best routes, mapping... 20:20:41 I'm helping each team so I didn't put my name anywhere, but I'm in there as well 20:20:56 it's this team's job to basically make sure that people can get to and from the venue safely and with low stress 20:21:00 (not 'travel sponsorship/bursaries', in case anyone's confused) 20:21:19 we have this handled, we just didn't report to anyone yet :) 20:21:22 this year this may have extra work, as there are plans for buses etc. :) 20:21:28 yes 20:21:31 plan is to 20:21:38 who should we poke / prod on IRC and the lists for status updates here? 20:21:47 and who else wants to help? 20:21:48 AbsintheSyringe: so are those the names you expected to be there? (Vedran/Velimir) 20:21:51 have organized buses to pick people up from airports in Zagreb and Sarajevo at the peak when everyone's getting to Debconf/Debcamp 20:21:58 dam, vedran_omeragic and me 20:22:10 moray, darst, we're working on mapping the area, we are monitoring visa/customs law... As for actual routes, it still too early to 20:22:11 AbsintheSyringe: this isn't about what will happen, it's about who should be updating us 20:22:23 but yes, we're working on making travel arrangements 20:22:26 darst, yea two of them, you can add me as well 20:22:39 #info dam, vedran_omeragic, aroundthfur are point contacts of travel team 20:22:42 aroundthfur: can you add the other names on the wiki page? 20:22:57 however, this is my suggestion 20:22:58 putting nicks there in general might be useful, too 20:23:01 moray, yes, but you need to tell me which names? 20:23:09 moray, will do 20:23:16 that to every team, where should be one person from global team, that has experience from previous debconfs 20:23:23 just to monitor things if anything 20:23:23 AbsintheSyringe: adding you to every team is not useful at this point, try to have the other people do the talking for teh sub-teams 20:23:39 darst, got it 20:23:44 right, AbsintheSyringe doesn't need to be in every team 20:23:53 I'm trying not to really :) 20:23:54 (and we'll hilight them, not you) 20:24:02 okay 20:24:27 and I'd say we don't need previous people in every single team -- for things like travel it's just important to update (not today!) the global team on what's happening, and they can comment that way 20:24:34 aroundthfur: whoever wants to be there, if there are some people who want to be constantly poked about it and take questios, put them in bold 20:24:37 #topic Visa team 20:24:46 dam, k 20:24:54 right, we hope that visas will be easy this year 20:25:05 but it needs someone who is trusted to take personal information to deal with this 20:25:07 there was some discussion about tihs before, setting up a visa@ alias and that the government would handle things 20:25:18 darst, could you please elaborate more on this team. what exactly is their responsibility? 20:25:21 but we need to know who to poke 20:25:29 darst, yes that's correct 20:25:32 darst: I think we need a Debian gatekeeper 20:25:55 darst: for one thing, we tend to get a few fake registrations asking for visa help, and we need someone who can filter those out 20:26:20 #info visa team: answers visa@debconf.org, answering attendee questions, provides invitation letters, makes sure they can get approved to enter 20:26:21 moray, i can help there 20:26:23 moray: oh right 20:26:43 aroundthfur, if it's not going to be too much, otherwise I have someone else in the plan 20:26:55 *: who would like to be a global person on the visa team? Mainly filtering obviously fake developers out so we don't provide free immigration help? 20:26:56 AbsintheSyringe, i can certanly help 20:27:01 but not do everything 20:27:08 aroundthfur, that's what I'm saying :) 20:27:25 AbsintheSyringe, recruit that someone else 20:27:26 * gwolf is sorry, I'm basically just present for the log :( 20:27:32 work sucks sometimes :) 20:27:35 and put me in as a helping hand :) 20:27:38 or I can be the "middle" man 20:27:38 or not 20:27:39 maybe there's an international DD who can help on this? (shouldn't be much work) 20:27:43 debian - middle man - goverment 20:27:56 moray, that could work too 20:28:21 possibly someone who would like to help on the travel bursaries side later, as the emails tend to get misdirected between them teams by attendees :) 20:28:32 #help We need a international DD-type person to follow visa requestors 20:28:39 gwolf, you wanna do this? 20:28:52 ok, which names should be on this list for now, to be poked for status updates? 20:28:54 (and it's useful to know for the letters whether we're giving people travel help or not) 20:28:57 we need someone who's familiar with visas issues 20:29:02 i could help, but i dont want to be the only one 20:29:11 let em read a second 20:29:27 edgar, let's see what gwolf says 20:29:28 Ok... Well, the visa team depends a lot on how your country is 20:29:39 what do you mean? 20:29:44 It has varied a lot - We do get several (not many) phony requests 20:29:48 edgar, i'll help 20:29:57 gwolf: we have locals to do the work for this year, we just need a (maybe DD) volunteer who is interested in general travel issues 20:29:58 ah right 20:30:03 gwolf, maybee including persons of each country could be help 20:30:04 with the more "intimate" things for bosnia 20:30:05 so you should first work to see who is really coming for DebConf... and who is looking for a way out of that country 20:30:12 well we discussed that shouldn't be a problem for Bosnia as it would be for other countries such as USA or UK 20:30:20 so edgar checks for legimiticey and then aroundthfur for local issues ? 20:30:24 (we should hurry up!) 20:30:32 for better or worse, we cannot divert our resources to getting visas for random people - and we are to be held responsible for whatever is needed! 20:30:45 darst, yea set two of them 20:30:49 Some countries are extremely visa-friendly - i.e. AFAIK argentina required no visas at all 20:30:52 for example, I could be help for Venezuelan people 20:30:52 sure, i could do that 20:30:59 Some other countries can... be a real PITA 20:31:08 But you will have to get to know well the tramits 20:31:09 #info edgar for checking peolpe, edgar for local interface with government 20:31:16 #topic BL liasons 20:31:20 get in touch with gov't people, explain the profile fo the conference 20:31:25 darst: typo in last info 20:31:25 #info these people are in BL and answer questions about there 20:31:36 ...ok :) 20:31:38 darst, you mean me for local interface? 20:31:55 #info visa team: edgar for checking peolpe, aroundthfur for local interface with government 20:32:00 AbsintheSyringe: this should be easy to tell us? who is actually *in* BL for questions 20:32:08 darst, we already decided those, but then they just got lost 20:32:12 moray, ^ 20:32:13 #info Bojana Borkovic and vedran_omeragic are listed now 20:32:18 moray, right now only zlatan I think 20:32:26 darst, not me, another vedrannn 20:32:31 I'm not in BL 20:32:31 #and zlatan is in BL 20:32:33 whoops 20:32:34 Bojana's not here 20:32:42 yea, Vedran Novakovic 20:32:47 yes 20:32:52 later there will be questions like "please re-measure the size of this room", so actual locals are useful to know 20:32:53 #info vedran_omeragic isn't in BL, it is another vedran (vedrannn) 20:32:57 dars:yes I am in BL 20:33:02 Could I help edgar checking people asking for Visa? 20:33:05 #info Vedran Novakovic 20:33:09 darst:yes I am in BL 20:33:23 jaqm, yes:) 20:33:30 ill put you on the list :) 20:33:34 nice :) 20:33:43 #info jaqm also helps checking visa peolpe 20:33:46 yeah, darst, the second one sounds right, i live in canada 20:33:54 #topic Venue, hacklabs, talk rooms 20:34:04 AbsintheSyringe: who is this? (not you) 20:34:25 #info these people answer questions from others about what facilicies we'll have, for example so the video team and scheduling team can do their work 20:34:30 moray, didn't get that one 20:34:33 quickly: two people, who ? 20:34:46 I think I have to be on that one 20:34:55 at least one of two people 20:34:58 you don't _have_ to be 20:35:01 they will need to work out which room is used for what, present the plans to global team to be checked, etc. 20:35:20 there's two more guys from Banja LUka 20:35:32 they are not present, one is Atankovic, he did a great deal of help 20:35:42 do you see the actual rooms and facilities more than anyone else ? 20:35:59 so probably people from BL + others with DebConf experience for them to speak to 20:36:25 in the past we usually had one venue-contact for each building used, internal to this work 20:36:57 that's why I said this one should be me, along with someone from govt. maybe 20:37:06 darst:I can check tomorrow hotels,parking lots,buses,taxi.. 20:37:14 #info AbsintheSyringe can take questions about venue, Atankovic also (?) 20:37:23 darst, yes most def 20:37:24 #topic < zlatan> I can check tomorrow hotels,parking lots,buses,taxi.. 20:37:28 AbsintheSyringe: if you are the current contact, you should be on the team, though consider passing on the contact job :) 20:37:38 moray, that's what I thought! 20:37:46 put me in for now, I'll pass it on to someone else 20:37:48 #topic day trip 20:37:50 when times's right 20:38:01 So this can be almost anyone who knows the area 20:38:12 there was already one guy 20:38:20 talking to the people where we thought we wanted day trip 20:38:21 no DebConf experience required (besides knowing to make it accessible) 20:38:25 who will organise an amazing, disabled-accessible day trip, listening carefully to -team views on what's a good idea? 20:38:26 names / irc nicks ? 20:38:35 forgot his name, and he could be the most appropriate one 20:38:40 can't remember at the moment 20:38:46 #info AbsintheSyringe knows someone but can't remember the name for now 20:38:52 :) 20:39:03 AbsintheSyringe: just let us know / put it on wiki once you remember 20:39:07 #topic Conference dinner 20:39:10 darst, sounds good 20:39:18 this is a slightly nicer dinner or event one night 20:39:23 if we have money left :) 20:39:36 we'll have money left 20:39:43 yes, this year should be no problem I hope 20:39:44 darst:I will be if you want a first hand informer because I live in center of Banja Luka 20:39:44 any names here yet ? 20:39:45 yeah :D 20:39:49 I was planning to have it organized with team that we'll have for dinner and fun time 20:39:56 none of them are here tho 20:40:15 AbsintheSyringe: so do you know yet who will take on the job, or should we skip it for now and hear from you later? 20:40:22 moray, I know 20:40:29 AbsintheSyringe, give me name 20:40:37 names* so i can put them on the wiki page 20:40:50 aroundthfur, I'd rather skip the names right now 20:40:57 but we have that solved 20:41:01 AbsintheSyringe, will you put them on there? 20:41:03 it's polite to let them agree to it before we put their names 20:41:07 aroundthfur, yea 20:41:08 moray: take over for a wes seconds 20:41:08 ooh ok 20:41:14 moray, excatly 20:41:47 darst: I think we're done on local jobs? 20:41:53 yes 20:42:13 who should we liase with on the visa team, or how do we get in touch with the visa team? 20:42:35 #topic Video team 20:42:46 . (sorry, im LATE). can someone later on update me on who gets which mail alias? :) 20:42:53 the video team are normally quite self-contained, so I don't know if we have volunteers for it in this meeting? 20:43:09 is there anyone who was previously part / wants to be part this time? 20:43:14 they always accept volunteers :) 20:43:57 otherwise we can skip it, but anyone can join the video team nearer to DebConf 20:44:04 I'll be joining the video team. but I guess the things are sorted via the usual ml 20:44:15 i was in video team last year 20:44:20 anyone else here? 20:44:20 brother-: yes, I just want to check no one is wanting to join it but lost :) 20:44:43 then we're all good 20:44:43 can we just say one more thing 20:44:50 we need that from global team, help 20:44:56 #info for video-team queries, use the debconf-video list: http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-video 20:45:15 everyone who's good with inkscape or generally with graphics please let us know because we need your help to finish up our website and sponsorship brochure 20:45:24 #topic Design team 20:45:31 tnx moray 20:45:32 AbsintheSyringe, I can help with that 20:45:35 AbsintheSyringe is summarising this team there ^ 20:45:44 leogg, awesome 20:45:47 AbsintheSyringe: did you ask valessio to join it? 20:45:54 anybody else? we need help with website and sponsorship brochure 20:46:00 moray, aroundthfur sent him email, don't know what happened 20:46:02 AbsintheSyringe: website is a separate point 20:46:03 later 20:46:12 he didnt answer 20:46:18 for design, valessio is usually very helpful though, with good results -- try poking him again 20:46:30 leogg, what can you help with? 20:46:35 moray, will do 20:46:45 he helped a lot with the logo design 20:46:54 AbsintheSyringe, I can help with some Inkscape-fu 20:46:56 i guess he is just busy atm 20:46:57 #info leogg volunteers for design team, in addition to Aurélio A. Heckert and Miroslav Remetic 20:47:08 moray, Remetic is out 20:47:23 leogg, so, i should add you to wiki list then? 20:47:37 #info < AbsintheSyringe> moray, Remetic is out 20:47:40 aroundthfur, yes, please! 20:47:45 leogg, done :) 20:47:46 AbsintheSyringe: please update the wiki yes 20:47:53 leogg, ill explain what we need later 20:47:56 #topic Talks 20:48:01 aroundthfur, great! 20:48:16 * moray waves to *global* people again (in addition to local ones) 20:48:22 * an3as volunteers in talks team as stated on wiki page 20:48:27 so, talks are obviously an important aspect of DebConf 20:48:36 some people have already signed up as volunteers on the wiki page 20:49:03 the talk selection team may need to look for some non-debconf-team help later to ensure it's representative 20:49:06 ill add myself there to (scheduling) 20:49:09 it could be great know the speakers before the travel assigment 20:49:21 *scheduling* is important and needs work during the conference as well as before 20:49:32 (therefore the two points) 20:50:09 moray, :D 20:50:16 * darst back 20:50:26 IMHO *scheduling* and *talks* are different topics 20:50:37 #info several talk selection/scheduling volunteers already on wiki page -- selection may need some non-debconf-team people too, to ensure representativeness 20:50:38 talk selcetion comes first 20:50:41 an3as: yes 20:50:44 * n0rman can help on talks 20:50:59 an3as: but we already have many volunteers for selection on the page, so I was pushing them together in this discussion 20:51:13 QUestion: Do we want to propose certain sections / categories before talks can be submitted 20:51:18 normally it's not hard to get people who want to choose the talks :) 20:51:29 moray: yes :-) 20:51:38 an3as: that's really a topic for another meeting -- or can you post on debconf-team to start a discussion? 20:51:51 moray: yes, I'll post to the list 20:51:53 great 20:52:33 #topic Registration 20:52:53 this job has several aspects: "Announcements about registration. Set up pentabarf, help people with pentabarf, produce estimates of attendance 20:53:13 it's easier if it's someone who Ganneff trusts to give enough access to penta :) 20:53:48 this job especially deals with personal information, so to do internal registration work, you need to be involved in debian long enough 20:53:53 well. 20:53:55 (or in debconf) 20:54:14 400 peoples personal data... 20:54:47 but you can also get that permission by helping enough, and there is plenty of non-private work to do like help with announcements / communication with people 20:54:54 Ganneff: who did it last year? 20:55:11 moray: jimmy had access. 20:55:22 last time was roughly me, ana, marga, jimmy, + schultmc for payment related things 20:55:45 right, maybe some of those can help again 20:55:51 *: are there any DDs here who would like to be the registration desk ? 20:55:54 (access here as direct host access! pentabarf admins we have few more than that) 20:56:01 edrz also with host access 20:56:19 most of the past team would not like to help again, and I would prefer new people but I can advise 20:56:39 any DDs listening ? 20:56:53 i could help. needs to know more about the works though 20:56:56 it should be max. 1 or 2 people with host access (that includes ability to change code). and some more actually inside pentabarf webinterface 20:57:20 Ganneff: I think we are focusing mostly on web interface people now... 20:57:37 darst: meetbot needs a "ping DDs in the channel" option! 20:57:42 no it doesn't 20:57:45 darst: ah. fine. a handful there then. some global members who had access in past still do have that too. 20:58:16 Ganneff: there is a "pentabarf category", too 20:58:39 k 20:58:42 darst: probably we should focus on the practical web part and hope people graduate from that 20:58:51 or anyone want to nominate DDs to be on this team ? 20:59:21 kanru: are you a DD or been involved in Debian a long time? 20:59:47 i'm a DD 21:00:11 ah, great 21:00:55 can we have kanru start on the team, and find more as time goes on? 21:01:02 for the "announcements" part we'd normally have some local part to the team too 21:01:18 moray, me? 21:01:32 but we still have some areas to cover, so should probably move on anyway 21:01:52 #info kanru volunteers, will find more people later 21:01:55 moray, I'll help out 21:02:10 also, the room assignments team eventually gets on this alias to coordinate 21:02:14 #info Travel bursaries looks covered, I think that group will recruit more if needed later 21:02:43 #info Room assignments also looks covered 21:03:13 would any _new_ people like to help with these teams ? 21:03:29 darst, i can help there too 21:04:15 aroundthfur: right, add yourself 21:04:26 aroundthfur: where? for these teams, knowing people within Debian well is important 21:04:27 k 21:04:34 these teams should be mostly people who know previous attendees / know about DDs, but some local part could be useful too 21:04:45 for knowing about Bosnians who have never come before, for example 21:04:47 as a local part 21:04:56 i don't know a lot of debian ppl 21:05:04 yeah 21:05:09 ill be that guy then ;) 21:05:16 aroundthfur: right -- you could note 'local contact' on the wiki page 21:05:19 yea 21:05:24 i was about to do that :) 21:05:31 #topic Sponsorship team 21:05:44 ok, now I really would like people who haven't joined teams yet to wake up :) 21:06:16 maybe someone could find any names in scrollback and poke... 21:06:35 This team raises sponsorship money from companies etc. 21:06:44 #save 21:06:53 I see we have quite a few locals listed already, but it's good to have some more international people too 21:07:14 moray, i agree 21:07:17 the actual work is typically phoning up contacts at companies regularly until they give in and agree to pay us :) 21:07:33 so not appealing to all geeks, but extremely important 21:07:36 moray, agreed, we'd appreciate help if some previous sponsorship team members could assist 21:07:46 pablo duboue said he would 21:08:14 yes, DrDub is definitely in 21:08:19 and for e.g. phoning an office in San Francisco, it's easier to have team members spread around the world rather than just Europe 21:08:34