23:00:05 #startmeeting 23:00:09 oh - almost forgot about the meeting 23:00:11 #chair MrBeige 23:00:14 (as a backup) 23:00:21 everyone ready? 23:00:24 * Clint nods. 23:00:25 #topic Logo 23:00:28 * schultmc nods 23:00:29 Hydroxide: yes 23:00:37 so, we've had useful discussion on the mailing list about the logo 23:00:45 including a collaboratively developed draft or three 23:01:04 how can we get it in shape within 7-10 days? 23:01:13 we need to put something on promotional items, the website, the presentation, etc 23:01:36 are people ok with a deadline of 8 days from now to have proposals we can vote on? 23:01:39 do we want people to submit different proposals, or decide what idea we want and then collabratively develop it ? 23:01:44 or that 23:01:50 thoughts? 23:01:54 which mailing list? I don't recall logo discussion, although I may have skimmed through it 23:02:02 schultmc: are you on debconf10-localteam? 23:02:08 [Debconf10-localteam] DC10 logo call for proposals 23:02:09 if not, you should be (and everyone else who's interested) 23:02:09 I would say whatever we think will get us the best logo. 23:02:23 Hydroxide: yes - and I apparently did read that thread :) 23:02:39 MrBeige: I'd say that trying to be *too* collaborative won't lead to the best result in this kind of area 23:02:45 In my *opinion* collaboration seems the way to go.. but that's just one vote 23:02:56 moray: sure... yes 23:03:18 MrBeige: for design stuff you kind of need someone's version and to accept/reject though obviously there's room for small changes from committee... 23:03:19 I'm not sure how I feel about "Debian" being prominent in the logo - "DebConf" is typically emphasized over Debian Conference 23:03:32 ok. should we at least decide on the direction we want the logo to take, and then people can either collaborate or not to implement the idea? 23:03:35 schultmc: agreed, personally 23:03:46 but it depends if you already decide you want one of the suggestions so far, or to poke people for any others 23:03:51 moray: it's just that if I was making a logo, i'd like a reasnable knowledge that i'm going in roughly the right direction and not wasting time. but I'm not an artist and probably won't submit one, so my thoughts don't matter 23:04:34 so the only artist who's spoken up here is bgupta 23:04:56 I propose that we set a deadline of 5pm EDT on July 8th for proposals 23:05:08 and people can collaborate if they want or make separate drafts 23:05:09 Hydroxide: well, you asked more people on the list already than you have here, the question is really whether you poke those again or decide you're there already 23:05:21 what if we said "we'll vote in 8 days, we can have sub-votes before then to guide people" ? 23:05:28 MrBeige: sounds confusing 23:05:58 moray: what do you mean? there was very little response online 23:05:59 Hydroxide: yeah. i'll stay out of the decision process now... 23:06:02 Hydroxide: well, giving feedback on the things so far visible to other 'artist' types is useful 23:06:12 yeah. there was comment on the list 23:06:12 we could come up with a set of requirements plus deadline, cast a wide net, and hope something good comes back 23:06:16 (as MrBeige says, without needing actual voting) 23:06:26 Clint: that's what I tried to do before, except without a deadline. I think the deadline will help now 23:06:37 hi 23:06:38 maybe if they see the suggestions so far and comments on them they'll give an improvement 23:06:55 moray: yes, exactly 23:06:58 moray: yeah ... that was the point of doing it on-list. the collaboration so far has been there 23:07:05 tonyb486: hi there 23:07:16 tonyb486: we're discussing logo design 23:07:49 ok, so I'll send a deadline announcement to the list after this meeting, CCing the same people, and linking to the old thread? 23:08:03 Hydroxide: ok 23:08:14 #agreed Jimmy will send a deadline announcement to the list after this meeting, CCing the same people, and linking to the old thread 23:08:23 are there technical requirements you should include? 23:08:39 Clint: vector, legal to distribute derivative works, etc 23:08:40 Hydroxide: but I would try to as a group encourage people more by saying "this is looking good, if you do ..." 23:08:46 MrBeige: sure 23:08:50 MIght want to add a link to this wiki: http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf10/LogoContest 23:09:07 Hydroxide: okay, you said both those things already 23:09:10 great 23:09:11 #link http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf10/LogoContest 23:09:14 #topic PResentation 23:09:32 we have a presentation draft in subversion 23:09:36 using latex-beamer 23:09:52 #info svn co svn://svn.debian.org/debconf-data/ 23:09:56 svn://svn.debian.org/debconf-data/dc10/presentation/dc10pres.tex 23:10:09 #info svn co svn+ssh://svn.debian.org/svn/debconf-data/ (with alioth login, ping us to get you added) 23:10:19 yes 23:10:36 you can compile it with pdflatex dc10pres.tex 23:10:36 wait, those will pull in a lot of other data... you might want to limit it... 23:10:56 #info svn co svn://svn.debconf.org/debconf-data/dc10/ 23:11:24 #info current draft at http://rogue.kaplowitz.org/~jimmy/dc10pres.pdf 23:11:31 ping 23:11:43 #info Clint needs debconf-data svn access 23:11:45 noted 23:11:55 so, here was my plan for this: 23:12:15 we use irc right now to make a list of all possible stuff we might want 23:12:18 #topic stuff to add / avoid in the presentation 23:12:35 go ahead :) 23:12:39 use #info 23:12:43 and then after the meeting those interested decide on organization and add it, since after knowing what you want, it's easier to include it all 23:12:57 is the goal of the presentation just to convince people to come, or are there others? 23:13:10 Clint: that's the big one. and to answer questions they might have. 23:13:11 Clint: ohhh, yes... we should decide what the goal is 23:13:22 so it's to convince people that it'll be awesome 23:13:37 not necessirily to give them all the facts ? 23:13:39 #info goal of the dc10 presentation at dc9: convince people that dc10 will be awesome and that they should come 23:13:55 #info be positive, don't scare people away 23:14:00 #info nyc has great tourist value 23:14:16 #info morningside heights is not a megacity, it's a nice neighberhood 23:14:34 #info spanish widely spoken in the area 23:14:41 near central park 23:14:43 #info maybe some information on airfares ? 23:14:45 #info near central park 23:14:46 (and riverside) 23:14:51 #info and near riverside park 23:15:18 #info columbia has a lot of tech resources, won't be hard to integrate with it 23:15:23 the great thing about using svn is that we can all add things as we see them 23:15:27 I prolly would skiup airfare info and rather just list the local airprots 23:15:27 even after the meeting 23:15:39 bgupta: how about: 23:16:01 #info be brief and give one or two sample airfares - don't make it a full slide 23:16:18 Hydroxide: just enough to convince people that it's not expensive to get here 23:16:24 MrBeige: right 23:16:31 and if it turns out we can't get data supporting our case, we leave it out 23:16:37 true :) I think we can 23:16:46 #info 24-hour transportation runs all over the city 23:17:00 #info no cars needed anywhere 23:17:03 I just think that it's hard because people are coming from so many different places 23:17:07 #info touch on handicapped accessibility, but leave most details for the website 23:17:30 bgupta: yeah. there are a few big areas though, and we can do e.g. one europe, one south america, one north america 23:17:37 bgupta: the goal isn't to tel people what they need to know, just to convince them it's not too expensive 23:17:41 or leave out that last one 23:17:44 whatever works 23:17:52 probably not necessary to reiterate things that were necessary for the bid 23:18:12 unless it's a very good advantange of nyc 23:18:21 * Clint nods. 23:18:34 #info look at bid documents and see what the huge advantages for nyc were there, include them 23:18:53 I don't think people will think of flight prices as a problem for NYC 23:19:14 the people who have 8 weeks of vacation to use around the conference might appreciate the relative closeness of nearby cities 23:19:16 I guess you want to think of stuff they might think of as problems, and without focussing on the problem part, say relevant positive stuff 23:19:17 moray: as I asid earlier, one person already had that concern, though it wouldn't have been different for anywhere else in the americas for him 23:19:22 CHeck here for some ideas: http://www.iloveny.com/home.aspx (Or maybe even link) 23:19:32 #link http://www.iloveny.com/ 23:19:43 #link http://nycgo.com/ 23:19:43 #info other nearby cities in the US 23:20:05 Hydroxide: well, I think from most places attendees come from it will appear obviously much cheaper than e.g. Argentina... 23:20:09 what other concerns have attendees had about the US, which we could alleviate here ? 23:20:11 #info or other attractive areas for tourism 23:20:27 besides immigration difficulty? 23:20:33 #info we don't want to spend too much of the presentation on tourism (cf. "Don't have too much fun!") 23:20:44 I think NYC is also reasonably obviously a tourist place, so no *need* to spend too much time on it 23:20:58 I think the 'don't have too much fun' thing may just look negative though 23:21:11 Clint: yes, what ether concerns besides immigration (of course that's included too) 23:21:24 anyone attending dc9 and planning to go to dc10 clearly *isn't* just going to scam money from debconf... 23:21:31 #info reword "don't have too much fun" and a few other bits to be positive not negative 23:21:34 (well, is unlikely to be) 23:21:35 i haven't heard any but 1) immigration and 2) the USA is patently evil 23:21:43 Mmm. WE probably want to clarify border visa and border issues in the preso, especially in those cases where people have to do stuff early. 23:21:53 bgupta: it's in there ... check the .pdf or .tex 23:22:03 #info emphasize *greatly* that NYC is incredibly multicultural and not at all like much of the rest of the US 23:22:14 Clint: right, 2 is harder to deal with, though it appears most of the world will believe you if you make a grinning Obama the background on every slide 23:22:17 #info visa and border issues are already in the presentation structure - details will be provided by Frank 23:22:24 Clint: I think 2 is mostly why people complain about 1 23:22:46 moray: no comment 23:22:55 anything else to say on this subtopic of the agenda? 23:22:56 i.e. complaining about 1, or addressing it too much, may be something of a red herring 23:23:13 ok then 23:23:16 I don't think the real concern from Europeans who complain is really the immigration stuff 23:23:21 FOr transport I might mention taxi and limo stuff. Just so people know that's there if they need it. 23:23:34 obviously it's different from some Latin Americans, but there's also less you can do for the people who correctly worry about it 23:23:39 #info mention taxi and limo stuff along with other transportation options 23:23:58 bgupta: you can use #info, too 23:24:02 not helicopter? did they stop that route from the airports? ;) 23:24:11 #info and helicopter (yes, it's available) 23:24:14 moray: no, it exists :) 23:24:14 moray: it's still there 23:24:27 MrBeige: We definately need a slide on food! 23:24:33 #info definitely talk about the food! 23:24:38 bgupta: please use #info 23:24:47 what venue-related things ? 23:24:53 "90,000,000 cuisines" 23:24:55 and day trip related things ? 23:25:06 #info day-trip things should be mentioned 23:25:08 tonyb486: what would entice you into the city? 23:25:34 #info tourist daytrip options, naturalistic/explorational daytrip options, lesser-known urban bits daytrip options... 23:25:40 #info For transport mention yellow cabs, limo, and shuttle buses 23:25:53 < MrBeige> what venue-related things ? 23:26:19 columbia looks neat 23:26:36 #info photos of columbia 23:26:41 #info a map or two 23:26:44 Clint: what do you like best about columbia ? 23:26:57 Not sure it is appropriate for the preso, but NY is known for it's nightlife. 23:27:02 bgupta: sure it is 23:27:05 MrBeige: just how it seems so out of place from its surroundings 23:27:07 bgupta: briefly 23:27:17 #info brief info on nightlife 23:27:18 #info briefly mention NYC's nightlife 23:27:24 heh 23:27:26 MrBeige: and like how there's something identifiable as a campus, unlike nyu 23:27:32 bgupta: I was so used to you not doing it :) good for you 23:27:42 #info < Clint> MrBeige: and like how there's something identifiable as a campus, unlike nyu 23:28:10 is that a draw for other people? 23:28:23 Clint: it *is* a nice oasis 23:28:32 these are some good ideas... it's already :28. should we leave some time for the rest of the agenda? 23:28:39 Clint: with large lawns and plazas and stuff, so it will be very nice to be in 23:28:44 * Clint nods. 23:28:46 #info Make sure the columbia map is color if available 23:29:22 yeah, we can probably move on 23:29:23 jvasile: hi there. 23:29:28 #topic dividing up the presentation work 23:29:31 Hydroxide: Do you want to schedule a meeting to work on preso? 23:29:37 Hi. Is this the 7pm meeting? 23:29:40 jvasile: yes 23:29:58 MrBeige: are meetbot logs available in real time for him to catch up? 23:30:05 Hydroxide: also if you don't have it yet, a slide on the weather, as by then in dc9 people will want to know about that :) 23:30:09 #save 23:30:22 #info mention NYC weather in comparison to dc9 :) 23:30:27 * Clint laughs. 23:30:29 good way to spin it 23:31:01 bgupta: I think having a large-group meeting isn't conducive to actually working on the file 23:31:13 here's my suggestion 23:31:26 take a look at what is in the .tex file so far, and what we've #info'ed so far this meeting 23:31:27 http://rkd.zgib.net/meetbot/debconf-nyc/2009/debconf-nyc.2009-06-30-23.00.html 23:31:33 jvasile: --^ 23:31:45 * jvasile looks now 23:31:57 does anyone want to take responsibility for adding content on a certain chunk of the presentation? 23:32:03 not the whole thing, just a chunk of it 23:32:06 well I thought that we were gonna ado a mockup in wiki first... but it seems you guys went straight to working on the preso 23:32:14 bgupta: we had the outline on the wiki 23:32:15 bgupta: yes, we should all add stuff via svn, and after it's mostly done then we can discuss again 23:32:32 #action MrBeige takes the venue parts 23:32:46 I can do whatever's left over. 23:32:49 #action and MrBeige also takes morningside heights related sections (hopefully with some help) 23:32:57 does someone want to do "yay NYC is great" parts? 23:33:11 there are already a few headlines about that in the .tex 23:33:12 sure 23:33:20 #action bgupta does the "yay NYC is great" parts 23:33:25 that's liek tourism food and nightlife, no? 23:33:30 bgupta: yeah 23:33:33 #action jvasile will help with Morningside Heights, though it's been a few years since he lived there 23:33:38 jvasile: great 23:33:55 jvasile: thanks, that will help me! 23:34:42 #action Jimmy will remind Frank about the visa/border stuff in the context of the presentation 23:35:18 #action Jimmy will deal with the local team bit and the NYC transportation bit 23:35:20 Hydroxide: I don't understand the what we won't provide slide.. 23:35:26 #action including airport 23:36:12 Hydroxide: That's slide 22 23:36:40 bgupta: that was MrBeige's wording ... I think we should phrase it more positively. basically, he wanted to convey that we shouldn't spend large chunks of time as a local team arguing about "US is evil" stuff. I think we might want to leave it out and just decline to get into long drawn-out arguments in public contexts about it 23:36:47 we don't need to decide who all will do what bits right now... we can recruit people later 23:36:55 MrBeige: we just figured out a bunch of bits though 23:37:00 MrBeige: too late ;) 23:37:19 MrBeige: If I can get you content, can you tex it for me? 23:37:29 bgupta: absolutely 23:37:51 ok, moving on? 23:37:55 #info if anyone doesn't know latex or latex-beamer, they can just throw data into the file and someone else will tex-ify or beamer-ify 23:38:17 great 23:38:21 #topic website 23:38:58 here we just need to basically do three things: (1) remove dc9 content and associated scary disclaimer; (2) replace it with corresponding dc10 content; (3) some sort of visual refresh 23:39:08 this is really easy to do 23:39:15 it's in the same svn checkout 23:39:21 in the website subdir instead of presentation subdir 23:39:25 removing dc9 data is easy... 23:39:27 yep 23:39:33 HYdroxide, MrBeige: Can we poll some non-US folks to see what they would like to hear about in the preso? (If you haven't done so already). 23:39:43 bgupta: we've asked in #-team already 23:39:49 adding dc10 data can be done as-needed, for now focus on what's helpful so far in advance 23:40:06 MrBeige: my goal is to have a bunch of info at the presentation 23:40:07 * jvasile will need an alioth login 23:40:09 (I mean, dc9 site only recently got fully data-ified around reconfirmation time...) 23:40:14 MrBeige: We talked about setting up an email alias for visa questions. 23:40:20 we should list that 23:40:23 #action Hydroxide requests alioth login for jvasile 23:40:27 jvasile: go create one - they're self-creatable, though it'll have a -guest suffix as you're not a DD 23:40:30 Hydroxide: -team people will all have watched the discussions lots before, of course, others may want different stuff 23:40:36 #info alioth logins are self-creatable 23:40:51 jvasile: once you've got one, let me know 23:40:55 #action Hydroxide requests jvasile added to -data repo 23:40:58 Hydroxide: there 23:40:59 wil do 23:41:22 #info requests to be added to -data repo are initiated by the person who wants the access, and then Hydroxide prods the -data admins 23:41:26 MrBeige: there :) 23:41:48 so 23:41:52 website stuff... 23:42:06 here we don't need to get into details 23:42:13 but, who has time to work on website content in the next couple of weeks? 23:42:17 that will suffice for now 23:42:41 i may or may not depending on factors i cannot anticipate 23:42:46 anyone? it's really easy 23:42:50 Clint: gotcha 23:42:57 #info Clint may help - can't say for sure yet 23:42:57 but probably at least some 23:43:07 #info Clint will probably do at least some website help 23:43:13 what do you need? 23:43:24 Hydroxide: should we focus on finding someone to do a redesign ? 23:43:24 #link http://debconf10.debconf.org/ 23:43:39 bgupta: we need to make that into something that's accurate and complete enough for dc10 :) 23:43:42 MrBeige: sure 23:43:45 since I don't know anyone who has volunteered to do that yet 23:43:58 small amounts of other data removing/updating can be done rapidly enough... 23:44:03 #topic web redesign 23:44:16 anyone have ideas about how to find someone for this? 23:44:17 Hydroxide: If you want to grab me after meeting I can help with website.. I can work on text content. 23:44:45 bgupta: well, it's not a synchronous thing, but I can show you more what is needed 23:44:51 #info bgupta will help with website content too 23:45:21 Hydroxide: WHat kind of design skills are required? 23:45:38 IE: THere are tons of desingers in loal NYC user groups 23:45:48 bgupta: for the redesign? probably just someone with a decent aesthetic sense and a bit of html/css skill. it's not complex stuff 23:45:55 bgupta: the site is statically generated with a template system 23:46:15 I can put out a call for volunteers if you want. 23:46:20 bgupta: can I task you with finding someone who might want to help and having them email debconf10-localteam@lists.debconf.org ? 23:46:31 sure. 23:46:47 #action bgupta will find someone who might want to help with website visual redesign and will have them email debconf10-localteam@lists.debconf.org 23:46:51 great 23:46:56 #topic goals for DebCamp9 23:47:28 so, during DebCamp9, my primary two tasks will be (1) helping DC9 as practice for leading DC10 local team on-site, and (2) working on DC10 prep stuff 23:47:40 Hydroxide: alioth account created 23:47:43 regarding (2), I need to know what to work on assuming the presentation and website are in good enough shape 23:47:48 jvasile: great 23:48:16 we had talked about sponsor pack 23:48:20 Hydroxide: DO we need to find someone before DC9? IE: What's the timeframe. 23:48:20 what is it still too early to do? 23:48:28 jvasile: go to http://alioth.debian.org/projects/debconf-data and click on "request to join" 23:48:34 Clint: you already have debconf-data svn access 23:48:38 bgupta: no 23:48:47 Hydroxide: that was quick 23:49:02 #info dc10 site redesign doesn't have to happen before dc9, though it can if things magically work out that way 23:49:06 Clint: I mean, you already had it 23:49:10 Hydroxide: done 23:49:17 jvasile: great. I'll ping the -data admins about that 23:49:28 ok 23:49:30 Hydroxide: i am confused 23:49:31 but okay 23:49:40 back on topic 23:49:42 DebCamp9 23:49:49 I was thinking of trying to work on the sponsor pack 23:50:16 would this be the best use of my dc10 prep time in debcamp, or should I do something else? (secondary to presentation-related stuff of course) 23:50:24 and who has time to help remotely during debcamp? 23:50:28 (or on-site) 23:50:39 Hydroxide: you can always do other debian work, too... 23:50:48 Hydroxide: but i'd say sponsor pack + other stuff that's not done yet 23:50:50 MrBeige: yeah, but that's always true 23:50:56 MrBeige: For my slides for Tourism, FOod and Nightlife, when do I need to get you raw content to give you enough time to have it merged into the tex preso? 23:51:02 #info goals for debcamp9: sponsor pack + loose ends 23:51:12 it really depends on what gets done beforehand... 23:51:14 ok, moving on 23:51:22 bgupta: ping em after the meeting... 23:51:26 #topic Anyone else need debconf-data SVN write access? 23:51:28 bgupta: (but I can do it fast) 23:51:35 I think we took care of this, but anyone else who needs write access to presentation/website ? 23:51:48 #info if you want access later, contact Jimmy (Hydroxide) 23:51:50 good 23:51:50 :) 23:52:01 #topic When to let the US press start writing about DC10 23:52:22 #info bgupta already found an eweek.com reporter who wants to write about the first US debconf 23:52:42 #info so far we're waiting on that until after dc9 occurs and/or the dc10 dates are set. should we change this? 23:52:58 i think being able to narrow the dates down is probably a good idea 23:53:03 I think that's fine 23:53:17 Clint: you mean choose the dates sooner, or delay the news article until we know the dates? 23:53:23 the latter 23:53:27 ok 23:53:32 you could also decide if you're going to have some kind of Open Day thing, with what target audience 23:53:32 they can do whatever after dc9 is done, if the want to wait for later then they can, too 23:53:44 #info eweek reporter has also offered to help us get more press contacts. 23:53:48 as without mentioning that there's not much actual gain from press coverage 23:53:50 we don't need to decide if they need dates for their article (yay government intereference!) 23:54:04 moray: that's a good point, knowing more about the openday activities would be good 23:54:15 #info future meeting agenda topic, probably good to resolve before press coverage: determine what OpenDay for DC10 is like 23:54:17 moray: to be able to encourage people to attend 23:54:41 MrBeige: you don't really want to encourage too many random people not involved with Debian to attend 23:54:58 that's not really the point of a debconf (and would spoil the social aspects) 23:55:00 moray: the openday/debianday equilavent part only 23:55:04 (is what I meant) 23:55:12 ah -- yes, that's what I was thinking 23:55:14 but yeah 23:55:37 moray: might be good to encourage the US debian user community to attend and get more involved though 23:55:48 moray: as opposed to the open day which is more broadly focused 23:55:56 anyway this is somewhat of a tangent now I think 23:56:06 Hydroxide: yes, but that wouldn't be for the mainsteam press to do, more targeted stuff 23:56:11 anyway yes, tangents now... 23:56:11 Hydroxide: right, the DebConf target audience probably will learn directly rather than via press though 23:56:14 MrBeige: true 23:56:23 moray: or non-eweek press, at least 23:56:24 right 23:56:30 ok 23:56:35 nearly done guys :) 23:56:42 #topic brief mention: visa meeting with Frank 23:56:52 so, we couldn't have Frank here to discuss visa/border issues as originally planned 23:56:57 since he's traveling through July 7th 23:56:58 whenever he can, we do... 23:57:22 #info we couldn't have Frank here to discuss visa/border issues as originally planned, due to Frank's travel schedule 23:57:33 #info we will have that meeting when he is back, plus do status updates on stuff we talked about today 23:57:41 and, regarding that, next item: 23:57:45 #topic Next meeting 23:57:52 when do you think we should meet next? 23:57:52 :) 23:58:00 before or during debcamp ? 23:58:02 July 8th has two meetings for me already 23:58:29 how about send another doodle poll for the week of the 12th-18th ? 23:59:00 ok. does that work for everyone? 23:59:25 hearing no objection 23:59:27 sure 23:59:32 it's a doodle poll, we'll do what we can 23:59:33 #agreed doodle poll for week of 12th-18th 23:59:40 #topic Any other business 23:59:51 anything else we should address? bgupta, I heard you had something? 23:59:53 bgupta: 00:00:17 checking calendar.. tuesday is out as is thursday (user group meetings)_ 00:00:24 the rest of the evenings are good 00:00:27 19:57 Hey do you want to mention meeting with Columbia to settle down the dates? 00:00:45 I've been trying to meet with dana vlcek, to hear about columbia's SEAS facilities 00:01:09 I expect we'll hear that around mid june or in july is best 00:01:17 but unfortunantly I really don't have much to reprot 00:01:30 from housing, I don't know what else I could get from them if I met 00:01:35 MrBeige: any ETA on the meeting appointment with vlcek? 00:01:53 either the scheduling of it or the occuring of it 00:02:06 the most I think I could do with columbia housing is have them verify what they told me before still is valid 00:02:20 well, that's reasonable if it's a few months on 00:02:34 (for those who don't know, SEAS is where most of the non-housing part of the conference will occur) 00:02:34 MrBeige: If it's not too much trouble, that would be worthy. 00:02:54 I have emailed vlcek last week, no meeting set up yet. you all should ping me heavily since I spend most of my thoughts on dc9 00:03:19 ok 00:03:22 is it likely to be that they'll give us a bunch of options? 00:03:47 I think meeting with CU housing more towards the end of the summer would be best... right now I'd feel silly with a real meeting just being "say the same stuff to me again", though maybe she'd have more info 00:04:00 emails to maria would be a good idea probably, though... 00:04:05